On 12/13/2017 4:15 PM, Thierry Carrez wrote:
Based on several discussions I had with developers working part-time on
OpenStack at various events lately, it sounded like slowing down our
pace could be helpful to them and generally reduce stress in OpenStack
development. I know people who can spend 100% of their time upstream can
cope with our current rhythm. I just observe that we have less and less
of those full-time people and need to attract more of the part-time one.

If this proposal is not helping developers and making OpenStack
development less painful, I don't think we should do it:)

Given I have the luxury of working mostly full time upstream, I've obviously got a skewed perspective on this whole discussion.

I am interested in which part time developers are having issues keeping up and how, i.e. are these core team members that don't feel they can be good core reviewers if they aren't around enough to keep up with the changes that are happening? I could definitely see a case like that with some of the complicated stuff going on in nova like the placement and cells v2 work.

If we're talking about part time contributors that are contributing bug fixes here and there, docs patches, random reviews, I'm not sure how this is substantially better for them.

We've said in this thread that project teams are encouraged to still do intermediate releases, often. And we're still going to be working on features, so how does that help slow things down for the part time contributor?

If *everyone* must slow down then that's going to be a problem I think, unless we do something like alternating intermediate releases where there are new features and then only bug fixes, something like that - up to the discretion of each project team as they see fit.

I haven't seen anyone mention this yet either, but if "slowing down" begins to look like we're entering maintenance mode, I don't think that's going to attract new developers and it's likely to mean long-time key maintainers are going to lose interest and start looking elsewhere to scratch their itches. It's hard to say what would happen. I can certainly keep myself busy with docs patches and bug fixes until the cows come home.




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