-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 09/25/2014 08:42 PM, Vishvananda Ishaya wrote: > It seems that this discussion has actually illustrated shortcomings in our > answers to 3 separate questions, and people have been throwing out ideas > that attempt to solve all 3. Perhaps we need to address each one individually. > > The three questions are: > > 1. Which projects are “part of openstack”? > 2. Which projects are released as a single unit? > 3. Which projects are tested together > > The current answers are: > 1. Three levels incubation, integration, core > 2. Things that reach the integration level > 3. Things that reach the integration level.
There is a fourth question, although it's somewhat related to the first: do we continue the concept of 'incubated' and 'integrated'? Do these processes and designations improve OpenStack, or do they impede progress? Does designating a development effort as "in the club" discourage other, potentially better solutions? Or would keeping things wide open simply dilute the efforts of people working on these solutions? Assuming that we can achieve consensus as to what constitutes Ring0/Layer1/core, the question then becomes how does everything else get handled? IOW, are they all treated as independent additions? Or do some receive a special designation (e.g., "certified good enough for the Cern LHC"), and others are simply "your results may vary"? The issues with gating everything together aren't the cause for making changes to how OpenStack is organized; they are the symptom that we can't continue along the current path indefinitely. Breaking out the testing of the core from everything else is a good start, and will help alleviate many of the gating issues, but I think it's also important to realize that the growing pains are not limited to testing. - -- Ed Leafe -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.14 (GNU/Linux) iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJUJY6MAAoJEKMgtcocwZqLuxwP/1QSoHhhegZETtxVyrxBisOs sjJfh+wzLqjfEqkwUOZ0SX2aEFHuimNE5lWmPPB7hzffc6Z4aNxITjP/fCry77Ax IQsGTbTGG0gsXiyO/+/x6c6Yfkcmu6fui8L/hde0u7klN/8tATkp/5xwW4qvGXY7 1WJwBsHDx8MniqoJ2echP5uUytFMxGgK9tHA0bnWUEBNVCVt8tmczNTrRJzHY49P ZbdSDvwypvClfSLgu1/z8yb0Wv54dy0eafi6Gf+kYL0e3i5//Pv3YkSKrHTqm3Ww R1V6Acr/BOT6MC8Ln1TF2gNgSo8iCAOfIakkwmCLJCCuvOmKA3hbch16Ggqhm1Ua mDyuUcOICKs+NX07cIKnVkI5WpIGqCQ0M/HS1jiix3tOPHe3sie85Jqser9PGnis Hwtva100HqnBARp3vips7inXughfiiQ3UHW41l4aLuSf0faba1v2CiFrQfE6Nvm3 ownAMdp3qCtBgXkl7KcgFyyWeIZVUEDbxdMw+A5GR3PIsUDD07a2YB/mY03pVHc2 lacZFlw2aFoeVjnRhU988h+LnQvwM4+4mqpcnJvDsVGalV5CALI/I0CzJMjKLfZV t02jtLZz7CcUDPxGwmqF82rn+BYzJX/glpMYYHVQVzKL7MJr/H5eg8M1oi0huNoA lSfQ2U3/c4A1eURsLybm =qAHC -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- _______________________________________________ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStackfirstname.lastname@example.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev