On 12 November 2014 09:53, marios <mar...@redhat.com> wrote: > On 12/11/14 11:18, Anita Kuno wrote: > > On 11/12/2014 08:04 AM, marios wrote: > >> On 12/11/14 04:17, Clint Byrum wrote: > >>> Just as a counter-point: The entire reason that a mid-cycle is an > >>> important thing to do is to achieve higher bandwidth communication > between > >>> contributors. We can do Hangouts all the time and that's certainly a > >>> useful thing. But making the people in the room who have high bandwidth > >>> slow down for those who are at the other end of low-bandwidth may not > be > >>> a productive thing as a whole. > >>> > >>> Anyway, just a thought as somebody who has tried this before. > >> > >> I understand but I am definitely not saying the room should slow down > >> for someone on hangout - heck I'd be ecstatic if microphones are even > >> used). In my experience this can work best if it is understood that > >> remotees have a read-only feed into the room audio (best case + video of > >> slides) - it makes the world of difference compared to say just staring > >> at the etherpad being updated. I don't see this as having a high cost > >> to setup (just point a laptop at the speaker, end), > >> > >> If you are a remotee and need read/write into the meeeting then you > >> should prepare beforehand and have stuff written down to share. It is > >> only common courtesy, and I absolutely agree it would be in the very > >> least inconsiderate to expect the room to stop/slow down to allow any > >> kind of conversation to happen over hangout. In fact, just click the > >> on-air button and that way you get a youtube link to share, which > >> obviously *is* read-only (r/w participation is limited @ 10 afaik), > >> > >> my 2c, thanks, marios > > You seem to have put quite a bit of thought into this marios, why can't > > you attend? If the reason is purely financial, please approach Kyle in > > private and I will contact him as well to see if we can access some > > finances for folks committed to working on the technical debt for > > neutron that need financial assistance. > > thanks very much for your kind offer Anita :) - my gut feeling is that > this kind of funding shouldn't be used to subsidize travel for corporate > engineers, but it is excellent to know it is there regardles. >
You should not see yourself as evil and not worth using foundation budget just because you work for a private enterprise! After all - it's corporations like yours and mine which fund OpenStack. If for any reason your employer can' authorise your travel, and - obviously - if you want to come, you should probably do as Anita suggests. > To be fair I haven't even mentioned this to my manager - imo it doesn't > make sense for this one. The specific technical debt I scored at summit > is functional testing for l2-agent and dhcp-agent (as well as the > general 'help out/reviews etc'). As we are working to get somebody from QA & Infra at the meetup, we will probably have a "working table" dedicated to testing. > Neither of those are controversial or > require any particular deep discussion about approach :). We're not meeting to argue or have fights. There's already a summit every 6 months for that! This meeting is about finalizing designs into low level aspects and then getting our hands dirty on the keyboard. > I am based in > the far eastern Mediterranean so 1 month is probably also very close to > the minimum time before which you can comfortably plan travel to the > states. > > Fortunately there are no easyjets or ryanairs for intercontinental flights. You can buy reasonably priced tickets up to 2 weeks before departure. Idk where you are precisely but flights from London, Rome, and Munich to Salt Lake City are around 850 euros at the moment. > thanks! marios > > > > > Having you there is far more productive than not. > > > > Thank you, > > Anita. > >> > >> > >>> > >>> Excerpts from Marios Andreou's message of 2014-11-11 08:56:05 -0800: > >>>> +1 would be great to at least have a hangout going > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> _sent from my mobile device, sorry for > spacing/spelling/top-posting/.*_ > >>>> > >>>> -----Original Message----- > >>>> From: Kyle Mestery [mest...@mestery.com] > >>>> Received: Tuesday, 11 Nov 2014, 16:14 > >>>> To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) [ > openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org] > >>>> Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron] Neutron mid-cycle announcement > >>>> > >>>> On Tue, Nov 11, 2014 at 8:00 AM, Gary Kotton <gkot...@vmware.com> > wrote: > >>>>> Hi, > >>>>> For those unable to attend will there be an option of remote access? > >>>>> Thanks > >>>>> Gary > >>>>> > >>>> We'll do our best to make this happen. I'll see if we can get a Google > >>>> Hangout going in the room, and make sure people are on IRC. > >>>> > >>>> Thanks! > >>>> Kyle > >>>> > >>>>> On 11/11/14, 3:04 PM, "Kyle Mestery" <mest...@mestery.com> wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>>> Hi folks: > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Apologies for the delay in announcing the Neutron mid-cycle, but I > was > >>>>>> confirming the details up until last night. I've captured the > details > >>>>>> on an etherpad here [1]. The dates are December 8-10 > >>>>>> (Monday-Wednesday), and it will be at the Adobe offices in Lehi, > Utah, > >>>>>> USA. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> We're still collecting information on hotels which should be on the > >>>>>> etherpad later today. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Thanks, looking forward to seeing everyone I missed in Paris! > >>>>>> Kyle > >>>>>> > >>>>>> [1] https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/neutron-kilo-midcycle > >>>>>> > >>>>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>>>> OpenStack-dev mailing list > >>>>>> OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org > >>>>>> http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>>> OpenStack-dev mailing list > >>>>> OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org > >>>>> http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev > >>>> > >>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>> OpenStack-dev mailing list > >>>> OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org > >>>> http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev > >>> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> OpenStack-dev mailing list > >>> OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org > >>> http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev > >>> > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> OpenStack-dev mailing list > >> OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org > >> http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev > >> > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > OpenStack-dev mailing list > > OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org > > http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev > > > > > _______________________________________________ > OpenStack-dev mailing list > OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org > http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev >
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