On 11/02/15 11:24 +0000, Chris Dent wrote:
On Wed, 11 Feb 2015, Flavio Percoco wrote:During the last two cycles, I've had the feeling that some of the things I love the most about this community are degrading and moving to a state that I personally disagree with. With the hope of seeing these things improve, I'm taking the time today to share one of my concerns.Thanks for writing this. I agree with pretty much everything you say, especially the focus on the mailing list being only truly available and persistent medium we have for engaging everyone. Yes it is noisy and takes work, but it is an important part of the work. I'm not certain, but I have an intuition that many of the suboptimal and moving-in-the-direction-of-closed behaviors that you're describing are the result of people trying to cope with having too much to do with insufficient tools. Technology projects often sacrifice the management of information in favor of what's believed to be the core task (making stuff?) when there are insufficient resources. This is unfortunate because the effective sharing and management of information is the fuel that drives, optimizes and corrects the entire process and thus leads to more effective making of stuff. This thread and many of the threads going around lately speak a lot about people not being able to participate in a way that lets them generate the most quality -- either because there's insufficient time and energy to move the mountain or because each move they make opens up another rabbit hole. As many have said this is not sustainable. Many of the proposed strategies or short term tactics involve trying to hack the system so that work that is perceived to be extraneous is removed or made secondary. This won't fix it. I think it is time we recognize and act on the fact that the corporate landlords that pay many of us to farm on this land need to provide more resources. This will help to ensure the health of semi-artifical opensource ecology that is OpenStack. At the moment many things are packed tight with very little room to breathe. We need some air.
I agree with lots of what you said except for this last bit here. I don't believe OpenStack is a "semi-artificial opensrouce ecology". OpenStack has demostrated throughout the years the ability of growing without sacrificing openness. Have there been cases where we've failed to do so? Probably but there's always someone that raises the red-flag and calls out the community on the things that are not working well enough. Saying OpenStack is "semi-artificial opensource" is degrading some of the things most of us have been fighting for. I'm not offended, just worried. We've many similar messages from outside the community and having them coming from within the community is worrisome. That said, I may have mis-understood what you meant so, please correct me if I did. Tired and I should've probably waited 'til tomorrow before replying. Oh well, :D Cheers, Flavio -- @flaper87 Flavio Percoco
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