Julien,

We had a similar discussion within Trove several months ago and agreed to a 
convention that if you have a question, that should not warrant a -1 unless, as 
you indicate there's a strong reason to believe that the code is wrong and the 
question is leading.

We discussed this at a mid-cycle and agreed to put our conventions in 
CONTRIBUTING.rst[1].

We had a hypothesis about why +0 was rarely used (never conclusively proved). 
Our hypothesis was that since Stackalytics didn't count +0's it led to an 
increased propensity to -1 something. It would be wonderful if we could try the 
experiment of giving credit for 0's and seeing if it changes behavior.

It may be relevant to note that one of the recent candidates for TC also cited 
the possibility that a change in stackalytics was a causal factor in the change 
in behavior re: commits and reviews[2].

Maybe this is something that the new TC candidates can opine on; are these 
kinds of metrics driving bad behavior and if so what, if anything, can the TC 
do about it?

-amrith

[1] https://github.com/openstack/trove/blob/master/CONTRIBUTING.rst
{2] http://openstack.markmail.org/thread/2xfapsmyy5i44adj

| -----Original Message-----
| From: Gorka Eguileor [mailto:[email protected]]
| Sent: Friday, April 24, 2015 4:29 AM
| To: [email protected]
| Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] Please stop reviewing code while asking
| questions
| 
| On Fri, Apr 24, 2015 at 10:14:38AM +0200, Julien Danjou wrote:
| > Hi there,
| >
| > This is now happening weekly to me now, probably because I write too
| > many patches touching almost all OpenStack projects once a cycle, and
| > I'm really tired of that behavior, so PLEASE:
| >
| >   *Stop sending Code-Review-1 when asking a question in a patch*
| >
| > _Sometimes_ there are good reasons to set -1 even when asking a
| > question. For example, when the question is a hint sent to the patch
| > author so that (s)he improves is commit message, a code comment or a
| > piece of code.
| >
| > But most of the time, if you ask a question because there's something
| > YOU DO NOT KNOW OR UNDERSTAND, do not put a score to a patchset. You
| > don't know the answer, so you have absolutely no right to evaluate a
| > patchset with -1. Just don't set a score, it's OK, and wait for the
| > answer before deciding if the patch is worth [-1..+2].
| >
| > Thank you for listening, and happy hacking!
| >
| > --
| > Julien Danjou
| > ;; Free Software hacker
| > ;; http://julien.danjou.info
| 
| +1
| 
| It does bother me too, especially when you answer the question and you
| never hear back from them and the -1 stays there...  XD
| 
| 
| Gorka
| 
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