On Wed, Oct 12, 2016 at 11:28:00AM +0200, Thierry Carrez wrote:
> Emilien Macchi wrote:
> > I would like to request for some space dedicated to TripleO project
> > for the first OpenStack PTG.
> > 
> > https://www.openstack.org/ptg/
> > 
> > The event will happen in February 2017 during the next PTG in Atlanta.
> > Any feedback is welcome,
> Just a quick note: as you can imagine we have finite space at the event,
> and the OpenStack Foundation wants to give priority to teams which have
> a diverse affiliation (or which are not tagged "single-vendor").
> Depending on which teams decide to take advantage of the event and which
> don't, we may or may not be able to offer space to single-vendor
> projects -- and TripleO is currently tagged single-vendor.

Thanks for the feedback Thierry, I can understand the need to somehow keep
PTG space requirements bounded, but I would agree with Emilien and Eoghan
that perhaps the single-vendor tag is too coarse a metric with which to
judge all projects (it really doesn't capture cross-project collaboration
at all IMO).

One of the main goals of TripleO is using OpenStack projects where
possible, and as such we have a very broad range of cross project
collaboration happening, and clearly the PTG is the ideal forum for such

> The rationale is, the more organizations are involved in a given project
> team, the more value there is to offer common meeting space to that team
> for them to sync on priorities and get stuff done. If more than 90% of
> contributions / reviews / core reviewers come from a single
> organization, there is less coordination needs and less value in having
> all those people from a single org to travel to a distant place to have
> a team meeting.

One aspect not considered by this is that some projects have a large number
of contributors who are also involved with other projects e.g we have
regular contributors who are also deeply involved in Heat, Ironic, Mistral,
Keystone, Kolla, etc.  So we've typically got huge value from cross-project
discussion during the design summit (and attendance of folks from other
teams in the TripleO sessions).

> I hope we'll be able to accommodate you, though. And in all cases
> TripleO people are more than welcome to join the event to coordinate
> with other teams. It's just not 100% sure we'll be able to give you a
> dedicated room for multiple days. We should know better in a week or so,
> once we get a good idea of who plans to meet at the event and who doesn't.

Sure, we could have TripleO folks go to these project PTGs but it's going
to be something of a fragmented set of discussions if we can't then tie the
cross-project requirements together into design discussions related to the
TripleO roadmap (and have the relevant folks from other teams in the
TripleO sessions).

Hopefully it will work out and there will be space available, otherwise
we'll have to consider our plan-b, thanks!


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