Having a team/leader in that arena would definitely help. I'd contribute to 
common more if I knew what needed contributing, who to talk to about it, etc... 
Same goes for helping in terms of packaging, etc. to make it a proper common 
library.

    - Gabriel

> -----Original Message-----
> From: openstack-bounces+gabriel.hurley=nebula....@lists.launchpad.net
> [mailto:openstack-
> bounces+gabriel.hurley=nebula....@lists.launchpad.net] On Behalf Of
> Thierry Carrez
> Sent: Wednesday, July 04, 2012 2:57 AM
> To: openstack@lists.launchpad.net
> Subject: Re: [Openstack] best practices for merging common into specific
> projects
> 
> Monty Taylor wrote:
> > However, with a versioned library model, the projects can consume
> > things pinned to specific versions, and then they can submit a change
> > that updates the version depend and the code which needs to be updated
> > to support the version change, and that change can be atomic.
> >
> > So honestly, I'd say the real key is getting us closer to the point
> > where openstack-common is a proper library, because all of the rest of
> > the complexity is stuff we're inventing to make life harder on
> > ourselves, when the standard library with api-contract and a version
> > model of the world works pretty fine without needing coordinated
> > changes across multiple repositories.
> 
> Yes, that's the end goal. And IMHO we are not very far away. I think the main
> reason we are not there yet is that while a lot of people enjoy giving their
> opinions about how openstack-common should be done and consumed by
> projects, not so many people follow up and actually do the work.
> 
> Making our multiple projects converge onto consolidated and well-accepted
> APIs is a bit painful work, but it is a prerequisite to turning openstack-
> common into a proper library (or set of libraries).
> 
> I'd say the whole thing suffers from not having a proper
> team/leader/coordinator dedicated to it: relying on existing, overstretched
> PTLs to lead that effort might not be the fastest path.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> --
> Thierry Carrez (ttx)
> Release Manager, OpenStack
> 
> 
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