Doug Hellmann wrote: > > On Wed, Jul 18, 2012 at 7:00 PM, Thierry Carrez <thie...@openstack.org > <mailto:thie...@openstack.org>> wrote: > > Mark McLoughlin wrote: > >> Making our multiple projects converge onto consolidated and > >> well-accepted APIs is a bit painful work, but it is a prerequisite to > >> turning openstack-common into a proper library (or set of libraries). > >> > >> I'd say the whole thing suffers from not having a proper > >> team/leader/coordinator dedicated to it: relying on existing, > >> overstretched PTLs to lead that effort might not be the fastest path. > > > > While I was on vacation, I read in the weekly newsletter: > > > > "It developed into a request for leadership for openstack-common" > > > > and was like "WTF do you call the work that e.g. I, Jason, Russell and > > Doug have been doing?" > > > > But I see your point is a little different - you feel there should > be an > > elected/appointed "PTL without a PPB vote" or whatever to > represent the > > project. I guess that could help clarify things since it's what folks > > are used to with other projects. > > Right. So far we said that openstack-common was driven by "all the > PTLs", but that didn't prove particularly fast and efficient. Having a > clear face associated with it, someone specific taking the "lead" on > this project, will, I think, help a bit in getting to the next step. > > > Sorry if this rekindles old arguments, but could someone summarize the > reasons for an openstack-common "PTL" without voting rights? I would > have defaulted to giving them a vote *especially* because the code in > common is, well, common to all of the projects.
So far, the PPB considered openstack-common to be driven by "all PTLs", so it didn't have a specific PTL. As far as future governance is concerned (technical committee of the Foundation), openstack-common would technically be considered a supporting library (rather than a core project) -- those can have leads, but those do not get granted an automatic TC seat. [ Avoiding the need to distinguish between "worthy" and "unworthy" projects leads was one of the many reasons why I preferred the TC to be completely directly-elected. ] -- Thierry Carrez (ttx) Release Manager, OpenStack _______________________________________________ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~openstack Post to : openstack@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~openstack More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp