Am Freitag, 12. März 2010 16:44:34 schrieb Juergen Weigert:
> Hi Burkhard!
> 
> On Mar 10, 10 15:44:40 +0100, Burkhard Lück wrote:
> > Hallo Doku-Wichtl,
> 
> Wow, a surprisingly correct and welcomed salutation. :-)
> 
> > I am working since some years in the german translation team and in the
> > kde documentation team.
> >
> > A few days ago I accidently found this page
> > http://www.novell.com/documentation/opensuse112/ with a KDE User Guide
> > and a KDE Quickstart Manual for KDE 4.
> 
> Good you found us! Though 'accidently' makes me worry a bit. :-)
> 
Accidently because I am no Suse user (even if a suse from around 6.0 opened my 
eyes for the wonderfull world of free software and convinced me to switch to 
Linux, thanks a lot SuSE!); debian/kubuntu here; and because I never expected 
a distri to write something like a KDE User Guide - that should be the 
responsibility of the kde documentation team.
 
> > I am writing here for several reasons:
> >
> > * using modified parts of these documentation in KDE.
> > The documentation is Copyright 200-2009 Novell Inc. and FDL licensed?
> 
> Yes, please do so. We publish under GFDLv2.1 - with a section containing
> the text of GFDL2.1, marked as invariant section.

2.1 must be a typo, you mean 1.2?
With your use of the invariant section I am really confused (but IANAL), 
because:
As far as I understand the FDL your invariant section seems to be superfluous: 
If i want to use a FDL licensed text with no invariant section I have to add a 
copyright for the source text anyway and license the modified text under FDL, 
so why is your invariant section needed?

> Is this an issue for the kind of modification you are planning?
> 
http://techbase.kde.org/Policies/Licensing_Policy says about Documentation:
FDL versions 1.2 or later versions with no Invariant Sections, no Front-Cover 
Texts, and no Back-Cover Text.

"with no Invariant Sections" might be the problem here, that's why I mailed to 
[email protected] and asked for clarification.

> > I found source rpm's on download.opensuse.org, is there any other way to
> > get read-only access to the latest version of these docs in a repository?
> 
> We maintain our docbook sources in a subversion repo.
> The good news is, we move this repo to a public location.
> We are currently evaluating two options,
> svn.opensuse.org and berlios.
> 
> > * collaboration on updating/extending this documentation.  It's strange
> > that two groups work on documentation for KDE whithout even
> > knowing each other and waste their limited time with duplicated work.
> 
> Good point. As soon as we have settled in one of the public repos, we
> should be able to collaborate more easily.
> E.g. through patches, or a writable subtree.
> 
A public repo, even if it is read-only, would be great.

I have a lot of ideas to ease a workflow for collaboration, but let's sort out 
this license issue first.

Thanks.

-- 
Burkhard Lück

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