Am Sonntag, 14. März 2010 21:20:16 schrieb Burkhard Lück:
> Am Freitag, 12. März 2010 16:44:34 schrieb Juergen Weigert:
> > Hi Burkhard!
> >
> > On Mar 10, 10 15:44:40 +0100, Burkhard Lück wrote:
> > > Hallo Doku-Wichtl,
> >
> > Wow, a surprisingly correct and welcomed salutation. :-)
> >
> > > I am working since some years in the german translation team and in the
> > > kde documentation team.
> > >
> > > A few days ago I accidently found this page
> > > http://www.novell.com/documentation/opensuse112/ with a KDE User Guide
> > > and a KDE Quickstart Manual for KDE 4.
> >
> > Good you found us! Though 'accidently' makes me worry a bit. :-)
> 
> Accidently because I am no Suse user (even if a suse from around 6.0 opened
>  my eyes for the wonderfull world of free software and convinced me to
>  switch to Linux, thanks a lot SuSE!); debian/kubuntu here; and because I
>  never expected a distri to write something like a KDE User Guide - that
>  should be the responsibility of the kde documentation team.
> 
> > > I am writing here for several reasons:
> > >
> > > * using modified parts of these documentation in KDE.
> > > The documentation is Copyright 200-2009 Novell Inc. and FDL licensed?
> >
> > Yes, please do so. We publish under GFDLv2.1 - with a section containing
> > the text of GFDL2.1, marked as invariant section.
> 
> 2.1 must be a typo, you mean 1.2?
> With your use of the invariant section I am really confused (but IANAL),
> because:
> As far as I understand the FDL your invariant section seems to be
>  superfluous: If i want to use a FDL licensed text with no invariant
>  section I have to add a copyright for the source text anyway and license
>  the modified text under FDL, so why is your invariant section needed?
> 
> > Is this an issue for the kind of modification you are planning?
> 
> http://techbase.kde.org/Policies/Licensing_Policy says about Documentation:
> FDL versions 1.2 or later versions with no Invariant Sections, no
>  Front-Cover Texts, and no Back-Cover Text.
> 
> "with no Invariant Sections" might be the problem here, that's why I mailed
>  to [email protected] and asked for clarification.
> 
I got this answer by Alex Merry on [email protected]:
> Erm... how on earth did that get into their copyright statement?  The FDL
> actively prohibits anything other than a "Secondary Section" being
>  designated Invariant, and a Secondary Section "is a named appendix or a
>  front-matter section of the document that deals exclusively with the
>  relationship of the publishers or authors of the Document to the
>  Document's overall subject..."
> 
> Now, I guess that you could read "front-matter" to include copyright
>  notices, but that is clearly not what is intended.  Especially as in
>  section 4 it says: "...provided that you release the Modified Version
>  under precisely this License..." and "you must... Preserve all the
>  copyright notices of the Document".
> 
[snip]

> Well, I'm not even sure Novell's licensing header is valid, since they have
> designated as an Invariant Section something that (by my reading) is
> prohibited by the FDL from being an Invariant Section.
> 

His argument wrt "Secondary Section" seems to be valid to me, what do you 
think?
 
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Burkhard Lück
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