Am Sonntag, 28. März 2010 22:14:53 schrieb Burkhard Lück:
> Am Sonntag, 14. März 2010 21:20:16 schrieb Burkhard Lück:
> > Am Freitag, 12. März 2010 16:44:34 schrieb Juergen Weigert:
> > > Hi Burkhard!
> > >
> > > On Mar 10, 10 15:44:40 +0100, Burkhard Lück wrote:
> > > > Hallo Doku-Wichtl,
> > >
> > > Wow, a surprisingly correct and welcomed salutation. :-)
> > >
> > > > I am working since some years in the german translation team and in
> > > > the kde documentation team.
> > > >
> > > > A few days ago I accidently found this page
> > > > http://www.novell.com/documentation/opensuse112/ with a KDE User
> > > > Guide and a KDE Quickstart Manual for KDE 4.
> > >
> > > Good you found us! Though 'accidently' makes me worry a bit. :-)
> >
> > Accidently because I am no Suse user (even if a suse from around 6.0
> > opened my eyes for the wonderfull world of free software and convinced me
> > to switch to Linux, thanks a lot SuSE!); debian/kubuntu here; and because
> > I never expected a distri to write something like a KDE User Guide - that
> > should be the responsibility of the kde documentation team.
> >
> > > > I am writing here for several reasons:
> > > >
> > > > * using modified parts of these documentation in KDE.
> > > > The documentation is Copyright 200-2009 Novell Inc. and FDL licensed?
> > >
> > > Yes, please do so. We publish under GFDLv2.1 - with a section
> > > containing the text of GFDL2.1, marked as invariant section.
> >
> > 2.1 must be a typo, you mean 1.2?
> > With your use of the invariant section I am really confused (but IANAL),
> > because:
> > As far as I understand the FDL your invariant section seems to be
> >  superfluous: If i want to use a FDL licensed text with no invariant
> >  section I have to add a copyright for the source text anyway and license
> >  the modified text under FDL, so why is your invariant section needed?
> >
> > > Is this an issue for the kind of modification you are planning?
> >
> > http://techbase.kde.org/Policies/Licensing_Policy says about
> > Documentation: FDL versions 1.2 or later versions with no Invariant
> > Sections, no Front-Cover Texts, and no Back-Cover Text.
> >
> > "with no Invariant Sections" might be the problem here, that's why I
> > mailed to [email protected] and asked for clarification.
> 
> I got this answer by Alex Merry on [email protected]:
> > Erm... how on earth did that get into their copyright statement?  The FDL
> > actively prohibits anything other than a "Secondary Section" being
> >  designated Invariant, and a Secondary Section "is a named appendix or a
> >  front-matter section of the document that deals exclusively with the
> >  relationship of the publishers or authors of the Document to the
> >  Document's overall subject..."
> >
> > Now, I guess that you could read "front-matter" to include copyright
> >  notices, but that is clearly not what is intended.  Especially as in
> >  section 4 it says: "...provided that you release the Modified Version
> >  under precisely this License..." and "you must... Preserve all the
> >  copyright notices of the Document".
> 
> [snip]
> 
> > Well, I'm not even sure Novell's licensing header is valid, since they
> > have designated as an Invariant Section something that (by my reading) is
> > prohibited by the FDL from being an Invariant Section.
> 
> His argument wrt "Secondary Section" seems to be valid to me, what do you
> think?
> 
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