Marcel Hilzinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Am Montag, 21. August 2006 14:48 schrieb Andreas Jaeger: >> Per Jessen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> > Andreas Jaeger wrote: > [...] >> I added for now - and did this only for KDE, GNOME will come later - a >> generic KDE desktop pattern and a few sub patterns: >> * KDE-BASIS >> * KDE-Devel >> * KDE-Edutainment >> * KDE-Games >> * KDE-Help >> * KDE-IMAGE >> * KDE-Internet >> * KDE-Multimedia >> * KDE-Office >> * KDE-System >> * KDE-Utilities > > What about kdesdk (Kbabel,etc)? Will it be part of KDE-Devel?
Yes, that's what I would propose. The packages are not added all yet. > >> > Laptop >> > +--- (not sure how to divide this) >> >> I don't know either. > I don't think there is need for a special laptop pattern. Powersave stuff > should work with any PC. > > All the rest depends on specific laptops, so it shouldn't be installed on > each > laptop. E.g if you have an Acer laptop, why would you need sony laptop > settings in Kcontrol? Or if you have a Dell, your probably not interested in > IBM Thinkpad settings. These moduls are only workarounds for non working > hard/software. > > Of course it would be great, if such packages could be installed > automatically > for the specific laptop only. Yes, this is the goal - but we're not there yet. > >> > Server >> > >> > +--- Fileserver >> > >> > +--- Internetserver (DNS, web etc.) >> > +--- Database >> > +--- Directory >> > +--- Firewall, network server >> > +--- etcetera >> >> I have now: >> * Directory (LDAP) >> * Fileserver > Samba, NFS? Samba, ftp so far. >> * Mailserver >> * LAMP >> * XEN >> * Internet Gateway >> >> > [other roles?] > Database (MySQL, PostgreSQL) Yes, eventually. My list is not complete, I just started with some stuff. >> Development - not sure how to structure this. >> >> > This is only a proposal - I really just wrote it up in five minutes. >> > Maybe it's entirely in appropriate. >> > >> > Maybe the selection is 1-2-3 step: Primary qualifier, secondary >> > qualifier, plus add-ons (things you might want to do regardless of >> > which type of system): "Experienced User", "Kernel development", .... >> >> I don't like Experienced user - this should be split into several >> patterns... >> >> > Primary and secondary qualifier could fit into one page/window in a >> > tree-style display as the above, and going to the 2nd window for >> > add-ons could be made optional, such that new-bies or non-techies would >> > have a fast-path, whereas techies and/or experienced users would still >> > have the option of a detailed selection etc. > Actually I would recommend to take over the old selections for the new > patterns in expert mode. For newbies/non techies we should make new patterns, > e.g No, this is far too much work and needs also other changes in the UI that I prefer not to do. > First choice: > > [] KDE system > [] Gnome system > [] System with minimal desktop > [] System without graphical desktop > [] Expert > > > Second choice (if choosen one of the above): > > [x] KDE system (base, help included) > [] Edutainment > [] Games > [] Graphics > [] Internet-Tools > [] Multimedia > [] Office > [] System & Utilities > [] Development > [] Artwork > [] Wallpapers > [] Fonts > [] Screensavers > [] Icons I did not add Artwork, that's in the base for me. > [ ] Gnome system (base, help included) > [] Edutainment > [] Games > [] Graphics > [] Internet-Tools > [] Multimedia > [] Office > [] System & Utilities > [] Development > [] Artwork > > > [] System with minimal desktop > [] Windowmaker > [] Graphics > [] Internet-Tools > [] Multimedia > [] Artwork > [] Icewm > [] Fvwm2 > [] Xfce4 If anybody sends me patterns for these I'll consider to add them - I started with KDE for now. The following should go elsewhere IMHO: > [] File and printserver > [] Directory server (LDAP) > [] Mailserver > [] LAMP > [] XEN > [] Internet Gateway > > [] System without graphical desktop > [] File and printserver > [] Directory server (LDAP) > [] Mailserver > [] LAMP > [] XEN > [] Internet Gateway > > There should always be an "Expert" button, which gives back the possibility > to > choose one of the selections we had until 10.1, so old users wont be > frustrated. Here there is also place for things like LaTeX. LaTeX needs a place, I'm not sure yet where. > And: please keep the very good patterns for kde-development and > gnome-development including almost everything one needs to compile a KDE/GTK > app! Yes, those should come. Have a look at factory by the end of the week (or at Alpha4) and then let's refine them together... Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger, [EMAIL PROTECTED], http://www.suse.de/~aj/ SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126
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