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Carlos E. R. wrote:
> 
> The Thursday 2006-03-23 at 15:13 +0100, Juergen Weigert wrote:
> 
>>>>> That's fantastic! There is no problem then ;-)
>>>> I'm no licenses expert - but unless this approval allows SUSE users to 
>>>> change 
>>>> the code and release their changes to the public, there's still a problem 
>>>> with 
>>>> claiming that it's OSS. 
>>> Martin is right. We still cannot claim that pine is OSS.
> 
> Well, as far as _I_ am concerned, I don't care if it goes to a non oss 
> directory or whatever, as long as I can get it with the distro, either 
> paid for or by ftp. 

Obviously pine is still used by some people, so just
s/drop pine/move pine to non-OSS/g
in my original mail.

> The "hows" is something I don't understand and don't care about much. I 
> can not read and _understand_ licenses, anyway.

It's quite simple, actually. Pine is not OpenSource Software.
It is not by the OSS definition of OSI [1] and hence, it is not OSS.
The U&W license violates several OSS license criterias of OSI.
[1] http://opensource.org/

(and it's only "opensource" when it complies with OSI's definition of
OSS, it's not a matter of "how I call it" ;))

Read my original mail for more details:
http://lists.opensuse.org/archive/opensuse/2006-Mar/0351.html

As I wrote in an earlier mail, it's not about being picky or
"debianesque", it's just that SUSE Linux OSS is dubbed as being a 100%
OpenSource distribution. And pine+pico are _not_ OpenSource. That's all.
So either have U&W change their license (which I doubt, we won't be the
first asking them to do so) or move pine to the non-OSS ISO.

Jürgen, had any update on pine ?
(seems we all agree that pico can be replaced by nano)

cheers
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