Pascal Bleser wrote:
> [...]
> So, 10.0 has been spreading widely, 10.1 is about to be released after
> a very long and tedious development cycle (I guess AJ and the YaST2
> developers now know what it must feel like when a woman gives birth
> after 20 hours spent in a maternity room ;))

Well, I think they're better off because they're being paid for it and
they don't have to care about their baby for the next 18 years... ;-)

> [...]
> With the exception of houghi's DVD script, almost all the mails in the
> past two months on the lists have been about "my soundcard doesn't
> work", "Xen doesn't work", and of course "zypp/zmd problem".
> While that's fine on opensuse-factory or suse-linux-e, it's not on
> this list, and there hasn't been anything else, at least not as far as
> I can remember.

This is a general problem on mailing lists and it won't go away as long
as people on this list really answer all of the (in principle) OT
emails. It needs combined effort to achieve a solution.

Coming back to the original subject, I have a simple question: what is
"the community"? Is somebody part of "the openSUSE community" because
(i) he creates RPM packages for SUSE Linux and serves other users, or
(ii) he is an interested power user of SUSE Linux (or an interested
beginner?), or (iii) he writes emails on the opensuse mailing list, or
(iv) he helps others by answering SUSE-related questions in forums or on
mailing lists, or (v) he submits bug reports for SUSE products, or (vi)
<add whatever you like here>?? You wrote "we, the community" in the
subject of this email - do you think I am part of it?

>From my point of view, a (SUSE) community might be all of what has been
mentioned above (all people share interest in SUSE Linux and the
openSUSE project) although some people might be more active than others,
no doubt (sorry, but some people have to work hard and can't afford to
spend the whole day playing with SUSE Linux betas or writing emails to
the opensuse mailing list ;-)). Unfortunately, I get the impression that
others here on this mailing list have a different opinion about that
subject and a very restricted definition of "the community" (e.g. the
inner secret circle actively developing the SUSE Linux distribution or
some important SUSE-related software projects). The discussion about the
opensuse.org email address points also in this direction (Or will
"everybody" get an opensuse.org email address? Very unlikely.). From my
point of view, for instance a beginner can also be a very valuable part
of the community although he might "only" report things that are
difficult to understand or software that is difficult to use, etc. I
think it takes some time for a community to grow (together) and one
cannot enforce something like a community. The openSUSE project is quite
young, it just takes some time to get everything in place...

Greetings from London,
Th.



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