On Sun, 2007-09-09 at 10:00 -0300, Druid wrote: > On 9/9/07, Clayton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Just wondering... why is it that the Gnome version of YAST is so > > dramatically different from the KDE one in openSUSE 10.3 Beta3? > > > > My oppinion, based on historic observations, says that the reason for > that is simply because they like to change the stuff, just for the > sake of saying they changed, without absolutely any reason (may the > flames begin, I know). > > If I recall correctly the justification was "to have the stuff in gtk > in gnome". But see, kde was forced to have "gnome/gtk stuff" on it, > and nobody complained. The zmd applet, for example. > and doesn't that look bad? If so, I would suggest to write a KDE applet. The backend would be shared, but the GUI should not, at least until we find a good way of having KDE apps look good on GNOME and viceversa.
> But it seems no, > they (the gnome people) couldnt have yast qt, no that would be too > much, its impossible, cant be accepted. No, they need to be different, > they are special. > reading this it looks like us (the GNOME people working on SuSE) are evil :-) But the reason was not to not use QT, that's a very poor reason. The real reason is UI integration, that is, even though the QT version of yast works very well (I've been using it for years), it looked so different to the rest of GTK apps that they were not consistent at all. And given that Yast provides a way to write different frontends, that seemed to be the best option. > > I haven't used Gnome on SUSE in a very long time, but I don't remember > > YAST being any different between KDE and Gnome in previous versions. > > It wasnt > > > The Gnome version of YAST is unwieldy and hard to use > > 100% agreed > > > - not that the > > KDE one is a good example, > > 100% agreed > > >but it is certainly much much better than > > the Gnome one. > > 100% agreed > > > > > Isn't it a bit of a major usability issue if the core tools that set > > SUSE apart from all the other distributions are so > > inconsistent/different? > > > > Yes, but as Ive said the gnome people want to make it different at all costs. > no, we want to make it consistent with the rest of the desktop > > Also.. who thought that the Gnome version of YAST software installer > > is a good thing? > > I really dunno. Its really one of the most terrible app screens I have ever > seen > > > Was it actually tested with users? Does anyone else > > find it to be a very poor UI design? > > I really dont know, but I would be surprised if it was tested by humans. > I also find the GNOME version of the software installer a bit hard to use, so please, just file bugs to bugzilla and people working on it will fix them. -- Rodrigo Moya <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
