Dňa Sunday 09 September 2007 15:52:00 Clayton ste napísal:
> > I quite like the look of the QT version of YaST. It certainly a much
> > closer match to the console version, which is something I find myself
> > using more than the GUI version.
>
> Therein stands my point.  The CLI version and the QT version are close
> enough in layout and style to be effectively the same.  Walking
> through one or the other, you are in familiar territory.  Then you
> fire up Gnome expecting consistent tools... and you're faced with that
> dogs breakfast mess of YAST.  There is ZERO consistency.  That is
> plain dumb.  Consistency is critical in the interfaces that make SUSE
> stand out.
>
> > >Since you expressed your feelings about it, my advice is dont use  the
> > >yast gtk version for the sw_single module and dont use gnome. That way
> > >you will never see it again, only the qt version, which I think will
> > >solve your problems, mostly.
>
> Fine, but... Gnome is as much a part of openSUSE as KDE is.  I think
> that even though I choose to use KDE at home (I have to use Gnome at
> work), I have a responsibility to at least be familiar with Gnome as
> Novell packages it.  When things looks stupider than usual in Gnome I
> also think I should speak up... and YAST in 10.3 is really poor.  It
> is a regression... a step backwards in usability... then again...
> that's par for the course for anything Gnome.... so I guess it's to be
> expected.
>
> Still... I am quite disappointed in where "we" are taking Gnome in
> openSUSE.  This new YAST is not an improvement... fine, base it on
> GTK.. I don't mind, but for God's sake, do some usability testing...
> and put some thought into the fact that change for the sake of change
> is wrong.  And making the software installer so radically different
> between KDE and Gnome makes my job supporting openSUSE a total
> nightmare.  I used to be able to walk the users through things like
> the software management part without having to worry about whether
> they liked Gnome or KDE, or were stuck with the text version of
> YAST... it was all basically the same.  Now?  Now, it's a mess.  A
> real mess.  I even tried the various other views... and they were
> worse than the default flat view.

We simply took the hard work done by Ricardo and Michael to create the 
community-developed Gtk frontend. 

I see your point of support and also documentaiton is very similar issue. 
However, the value of difference, trying out a different approaches is very 
valuable. 

For your particular case of support problems, I suggest to 
adapt /etc/sysconfig/yast2, set WANTED_GUI="qt"

Stano
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