Joe Morris (NTM) wrote:

> On 09/23/2007 08:37 PM, Carlos E. R. wrote:

>> I type it, but by this
>> time the smtp session timed out in the server (I guess) and fails.
>>   
> Easily fixed by correctly configuring your smtp settings in Account
> Settings.  Username and password are easily entered there.

Wrong. Username can be entered, not password. Look for yourself.

>> I try again, and this time Th. asks for my smtp password and whether I
>> want to keep it. Why? 
> Because you did not fill it in.

I did.

>> He already knows that! 
> It knows you need it because the smtp server requires it, it knows you
> did not provide it, and you complain it asks you to do something you may
> have forgotten to do?  Must be a bad day Carlos

No, Joe, no. I have observed  this behavior for months. I did provide
it, I have connected other days, and every time is the same thing. Yes,
I always select "remember password", via master password.

>> This is a nuisance, because
>> I use random passwords difficult to remember and have look it up.
>>   
> No you don't.  Enter them in the Settings for the correct smtp server.

There is no password entry box in the smtp server definition box. Look
again. Only username.

>> Is there a way to make Thunderbird remember my password for ever and not
>> ask for it again, 
> Yes, that is what it does when it stores your password.
>> even if it fails? 
> No.  If it fails, the server asks for a correct password, which after
> the entered one fails, it only passes on to the user.  That is the
> correct thing for it to do.

It is asking for the password, which it already has. I want it to retry,
not to ask for my password. He thinks it is wrong, I know it is correct.

>> I want to be able to enter the
>> password in the configuration, not as a pop up when I want to send or
>> receive. 
> Then you may in Account Settings, Outgoing Servers (SMTP).

No, I may not. It is not there. Look for your self.

>> I do not want to be asked again if it fails, because once
>> configured the password it keeps being correct.
>>   
> If it is correct, it will not ask and it will not fail.  If it fails,
> then it is not correct and has to be corrected.  I don't believe it
> saves a password until it is accepted and works the initial time.  HTH.

It fails for different reasons that make he thinks it is wrong. I know
better.

I know better because it connected in the previous session.


Sequence (from memory):

 1 send
 2 asks for master password. I type it.
 3 server timeout and gives error.
 4 Thund. ask for smtp passwd. I look it up ant paste it.
 5 server fails (another timeout).
 6 send
 7 Thund. ask for smtp passwd
 8 I paste password fast, request it to remember.
 9 success.
 10 send, sucess, till I close Thund.

Next day: same as above.


-- 
Cheers,
      Carlos E. R.
      (from RC1)
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