Since the minutes of the meeting are not out (or are they?), its not immediately clear why doing so is a BT.
Would you kindly elaborate on how this consensus was arrived at, and why reinventing the wheel, so to speak, is better than using something already tested and in use? Or alternatively, point me to the minutes...:-) Thanks. Kelvin On Thu, 13 Feb 2003 19:41:01 -0800, Jason Carreira said: >I started building one. The consensus at the design meeting last >week was that creating a dependency on another validation framework >was a Bad Thing, so, since it only took a few hours to put in >localized and parameterized messages, we're sticking with our own. > >>-----Original Message----- >>From: Francisco Hernandez [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: >>Thursday, February 13, 2003 4:37 PM To: opensymphony- >>[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [OS-webwork] Webwork 2.0 >> >>i havent kept up with all the emails but will you guys be building >>your own validator? or will an existing one be used? >> >>----- Original Message ----- >>From: "Jason Carreira" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: >><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, >>February 13, 2003 12:01 PM Subject: RE: [OS-webwork] Webwork 2.0 >> >> >>Ok, what do we want to see for docs? Should we go back into the >>stuff from 1.x and re-do that, or just document the new / different >>stuff for now? >> >> >>Here's a quick outline: >> >>Xwork 1)Introduction a) What is Xwork Xwork is a generic command >>pattern framework... >>b) How does Xwork relate to Webwork? >>Webwork 2.0 is built on top of Xwork... >>2) The basics a) Actions Actions are the basic unit of execution... >>1) The Action Interface 2) ActionSupport 3) Lifecycle b) No >>FormBeans? >>Xwork / Webwork does not require the use of FormBeans like >>Struts... >>3) Configuration - Xwork.xml >> >>4) Ognl Ognl is used as both the expresion language and bean >>population utility for Xwork... >> >>5) Interceptors a) Utility Interceptors The TimerInterceptor and >>LoggingInterceptor ... >>b) Parameter Interceptors - populating your Action The >>StaticParameterInterceptor and ParameterInterceptor populate your >>Action fields... >>c) ResultInterceptor >> >>6) Validation Framework (optional) a) The ValidationInterceptor b) >>Defining validation rules in a validation.xml c) Building a >>FieldValidator d) Localized and Parameterized messages >> >> >>I'll take 3, 5, and 6. Patrick, you take (at least) 4, and Joe, >>since you brought it up, you get 1 and 2 :-) >> >>What else do we need in there? >> >>Jason >> >> >>>-----Original Message----- >>>From: Patrick Lightbody [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] >>>Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2003 1:18 PM To: opensymphony- >>>[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [OS-webwork] Webwork >>>2.0 >>> >>> >>>Actually, I think Joe may be right for once in his life. We >>should get >>>cracking on the documentation soon. Maybe you can work on a >>skeleton >>>documentation effort while you're on the plane? >>> >>>-Pat >>> >>>----- Original Message ----- >>>From: "Jason Carreira" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: >>><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, >>>February 13, 2003 7:25 AM Subject: RE: [OS-webwork] Webwork 2.0 >>> >>> >>>>I guess that depends on how much help we get :-) It would >>>be good if >>>>someone besides Patrick and I were to work on things (hint hint). >>>> >>>>Patrick and I were talking about releasing a first Alpha >>of XW1.0 / >>>>WW2.0. What features from WW1.x need to be ported over to >>WW2? This >>>>isn't an academic question... I'm flying home tonight (probably >>>> >>>>leaving the office for the airport at about 4-4:30 Central >>>time) and I >>>>asked this question to Patrick last night: What's the next most >>>> >>>>pressing need in WW2.0? Give me something to do on my flight. >>>> >>>>Jason >>>> >>>>>-----Original Message----- >>>>>From: Heng Sin Low [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] >>>>>Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2003 1:16 AM To: OS-Webwork >>>>>Subject: [OS-webwork] Webwork 2.0 >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>All, >>>>> >>>>>We are currently evaluting the framework to use for our new CRM >>>>> >>>>>product. I'm bias towards webwork and really like many of the >>>>> >>>>>features plan for webwork 2.0 ( I've been using webwork >>>and are not >>>>>entirely happy with the current version ). >>>>> >>>>>So, my concern now is the schedule of webwork 2.0 and >>whether it >>>>>would be inline with our development schedule ( We are >>looking at >>>>>releasing the first version by September 2003 ). I do >>not mind to >>>>>live with the rough edges of the initial beta release but >>>would like >>>>>to know the estimated schedule of webwork 2.0 ( For >>e.g, when it >>>>>will be promoted from sandbox, what is the estimated first beta >>>>> >>>>>release date, etc ). >>>>> >>>>>Also, We are looking at using webwork, velocity, hibernate and >>>>> >>>>>sitemesh together, maybe someone here can share his/her >>>experience >>>>>with us ? >>>>> >>>>>thanks. >>>>> >>>>>Regards, Low >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>__________________________________________________ Do you >>>>>Yahoo!? >>>>>Yahoo! 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