Am 19.06.2014 18:35, schrieb Brandon Perry:
> Do you believe you are entitled to any of that? 

i do not believe - i am sure for two reasons

* it is a technical fact
* i am free to express my opinion in the world i live

and BTW - you do not need to use "reply-all" on a mailing list

> The guys heading the atomic repo are awesome.
> 
> This is an open source project, you are entitled to nothing. The fact that 
> atomic corp maintains packages for such
> an excellent open source project just shows how nice the guys at atomicorp 
> are. It is up to you as much as it is up
> to me and every other consumer of their packages to help them do their job. 
> That means being constructive. You are
> not being constructive.

they *did* an awesome job
and even that is not true

otherwise "openvas-scanner" would have dependecies that would not allow
uninstall openvas-libraries-6 in a transaction which don't upgrade
"openvas-scanner" too - that's why RPM/YUM exists and not notice
such major bugs is *not* awesome

> On Thu, Jun 19, 2014 at 11:19 AM, Reindl Harald <[email protected] 
> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
> 
>     Am 19.06.2014 18:06, schrieb Michael Meyer:
>     > *** Reindl Harald wrote:
>     >> Am 19.06.2014 14:15, schrieb Jan-Oliver Wagner:
>     >>> On Donnerstag, 19. Juni 2014, Reindl Harald wrote:
>     >
>     >>>> these idiots
>     >>>
>     >>> I prefer to maintain a productive, positive community.
>     >>> If anyone can contribute code, insights, or other things, it
>     >>> is appreciated. Even if one does not agree or it is not the solution
>     >>> needed.
>     >>> If someone made a mistake or lacks time to continue something or 
> simply asks
>     >>> a FAQ, it is never appropriate to use such language
>     >>
>     >> uhm in case of push packages to a repo and not test at least if
>     >> the services are starting (i don't talk about working as expected)
>     >> or just crashing because missing libraries and not build packages
>     >> sane that dependencies would not allow such a broken upgrade
>     >> *it is* appropriate
>     >
>     > It seems you don't understand it. It's not (always) about what you are
>     > saying, it's about *how* you say it. It is unacceptable to insult people
>     > like you are doing here on this list. And it's not the first time...
>     >
>     > Have you contacted anyone at atomic to report this problem?
> 
>     have you a contact?
>     i don't
> 
>     many months ago i posted on their forums that a package creates a
>     hidden folder below /usr/bin/ which leads to rkhunter-messages
>     after every openvas scan until you manually remove that folder
> 
>     well, after some months i just uninstalled rkhunter on the
>     OpenVAS VM to get rid of the mails every day - if you have
>     a contact which is taken seriously -> go ahead
> 
>     however, that don't matter, you get the first fatal errors
>     *due the 'yum upgrade'* because the rpm-scripts try to restart
>     the services and spit out the missing libraries - anybody who
>     needs someone to report such basic problems did not try to
>     install his own pakcage a single time and is hence an idiot
>     by definition

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