John,

On Nov 6, 2008, at 7:04 PM, John Mettraux wrote:

>
> On Fri, Nov 7, 2008 at 1:00 AM, Pat G Cappelaere  
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> 3). Are there things that you'd like to see appear? which direction
>> would you like the project to take ?
>> I would love to see convergence with WfXML-R for the REST API and  
>> XPDL
>> 2.0 ingest.
>> A BPMN editor that generates XPDL and connects to OpenWFE would be  
>> nice.
>
> Hi Pat,
>
> thanks a lot for your answers.
>
> We're (John + Diego) waiting for the final WfXML-R, keep up at it.
>
Just got the revision form Keith Swenson.  His team has something  
working and they are getting ready to give more feedback.  As we get  
more people implementing it, we get start tuning that spec.  Stay  
tune.  This is high priority now.

> About XPDL, I've got something of a beginning at :
> http://github.com/jmettraux/ruote-transition, turning XPDL into Ruote
> trees of expressions. Nobody's been using it so far.
>

I am going to soooon.... U awesome!

> I've been struggling lately to make Ruote web interfaces closer to
> this "tree of expressions" representation of process definitions and
> instances, meaning that Ruote definitions are very close to Ruote
> execution models.
>
Not sure what that means but I trust you. :)

> Advantage : what you see is what gets executed (and you can modify  
> the instance)
> Disadvantage : Ruote will never be a "direct XPDL" engine (well XPDL
> is a serialization format after all). There will always be a
> compilation step from XPDL to Ruote expression trees.
>
Agree 100%

> On the other hand, I've been doing some preparation work on a
> potential <graph> expression for Ruote that would make XPDL -> Ruote
> 'compilation' easier. We'll see.
>
> So your idea of finding a decent BPMN editor with XPDL serialization
> still prevails.
Can't take credit for it though.  This is Community Work.  The Way it  
should be.
Keep up the good work.

Pat.

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