-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 2/14/13 2:47 AM, Mathias Ertl wrote: > On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 10:26:24AM -0700, Peter Saint-Andre wrote: >> Another approach is to shut down all new-account registration. >> We've done that at jabber.org for short periods of time, and I >> am considering doing it again. At that point, i you want to >> connect to the open IM network, the answer is: run your own >> server (whether at a company, club, family, church, school, >> open-source project, or whatever). > > In what way does that address the spam issue? What makes you think > that Spammers will not just run their own servers eventually? You > may have heard of a thing called botnets ;-)
If your company or club or church or school (etc.) runs its own server and disallows open registration (which isn't all that different from running an open relay, is it?), then server admins will actually know their users, instead of the situation we have now where admins of large nodes on the network know nothing about their thousands or millions of users. It's easier for troublemakers to hide in a large mass of users, but harder in a small service that disallows open registration. Maybe big providers like Google have ways to figure out who the bad actors are, but smaller services run by volunteers don't have the time or resources to do that kind of thing. I'm not saying that encouraging smaller servers is the only solution. As we all know, there is never only one solution when dealing with security, spam, and such problems. > I am however sure that "just run your own server if you want to use > XMPP" will adress the "XMPP adoption" issue quite effectively, in > that XMPP adoption will be even less then what it is now. Very funny. :-) Peter - -- Peter Saint-Andre https://stpeter.im/ -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.18 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJRHSLXAAoJEOoGpJErxa2pJvkP/2b6OA3qba7mYx6XTifhS677 Ki64Uj8EMSp6kzMoDI1VLXotuiIrfZOvaQ02F/JvCP8yQ/7RNydqpE3mGLRb8yjc Mp4irHvGnngDYo7nidsh+5stwyGoTBp974VbzAwnXRxjxly9iIv7eh+W7ZWGrJy8 mGkwEtVuJQTkvA0PB5i/heEAYEEDdWNAodeXH4ZqdAgYu5C52QTvVFoNG3nDemt1 ixJAGoAfnLptnbrtOcF7m5Bg2PGieSF7KYamZ78z0Fgtm7eHfZGr2cIay2ukqwgn 89hLxxWABFdZxpzP1uUf+G5e9DWA2tT4PKRcsznX90SkuigEv2WYXoxokL/bm2Nm aAnB1cvner8dhgBq8zl9VYDe215qXOrkfYXpRmqNRg8qvV6ZI++R6sg+sVc1UtW2 P4jMw6K0CQ82YUxqAYI2Mf+kRN97MBor833Om8dU7WwaJFidj4VP4sIOnZ7SrCHc ch6ddYaso9HmMDOAR0trrlk8v1wiJOhgWPtOAHGoYXVqQPayRgioRaVgZJU1seac 59knofxEDbNbpTgYGZRd+cN2iGM69CfLbCXP82e9zpDLHqJK5cadgQfjDUWDsSqS mRyD5mam4AlokmoHb2k2OG+OZebEdPwlZdIul1hu/VAxGPjZBNWWZ6/b0FogCULH ohv8HW+wPSO/d0wxfIgz =57PM -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
