Am 04.12.2013 09:52, schrieb Peter Saint-Andre:
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On 12/3/13 5:02 PM, Alexander Holler wrote:
Am 03.12.2013 23:55, schrieb Solomon Peachy:
On Tue, Dec 03, 2013 at 11:03:27PM +0100, Alexander Holler
wrote:

So you think it is an elegant way that if a machine wants to
send 10 binary bytes to another machine, it is ok to put them
into mime64, pack that into XML, authorize and authenticate
with an XMPP-server. doing the necessary presence stuff to
finally send out a message or iq-stanza?

It sounds like your objection is to the use of XMPP more so than
its use of XML.  If you don't want (or need) XMPP's feature set
(discoverability, authentication, presence, security, etc) then
why would you use it to begin with?  If you do need that feature
set, then you're going to have to deal with the complexity those
features necessarily entail.

In fact I like XMPP, mostly because it's an open standard and it
got many concepts right and worked out (specified) well. What I
don't like about XMPP is the XML part and the need for TCP but one
can't have everything.

It sounds like you might want something like stanza.io with WebSocket
or BOSH. As a client-side API, neither XML nor TCP is absolutely
necessary these days.

And it never was. I always could add another layer to get rid of the stuff below.

Alexander Holler

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