wow, that's a tough one ... :D if you take a look at Openhub [1] ... it'll tell you it took about 57 years [2], or at least it's the amount of work worth it ;)
Anyway it's hard to estimate as I've spent the last 6 years improving on it. Never the less if I would work on it full time 8h day with the knowledge I have right now. One person could redo it within maybe a year. But it's a wild guess ... might be faster, might take longer ... Of course I would expect it to have the same features and possibilities it has which makes it different to other implementations of the HttpService etc. Right now we have about 500 unit and integration tests running with every build [3]. That functionality I would expect to be available after the re-write ;) BUT, the nice thing is. We can always start with a new branch and work on that in parallel. If there are enough people to work on it it should work. [1] - https://www.openhub.net/p/pax-web [2] - https://www.openhub.net/p/pax-web/estimated_cost [3] - http://ci.ops4j.org/jenkins/job/org.ops4j.pax.web/1028/testReport/ 2016-10-02 15:39 GMT+02:00 iJava <pavelkastor...@gmail.com>: > Hi Achim > > Could you say (from the top of your head) approximatively how many hours > may these changes need - 100/1000/5000/10000? > > Best regards, > > воскресенье, 2 октября 2016 г., 15:40:23 UTC+3 пользователь Achim Nierbeck > написал: >> >> Sounds like a good and interesting idea ... >> Right now only from the top of my head: >> The Pax-Web Runtime and therefore the different Implementations aren't >> made for this right now. So this would need a complete rewrite of how we're >> handling it. Another point would be how would web and white-board extender >> work with it. We could think about wiring those two closer to the core. >> Never the less an application deploying servlets will always need to add >> the virtual host environment, working with defaults could take care of that. >> >> We could consider to start this with a complete rewrite of Pax-Web and >> therefore aim for a 7.0. >> >> BUT ... I fear I won't have enough time to takle this. Considering the >> amount of time I spent in the past and about what it would take to have all >> the functionalities of Pax-Web re-written, and especially with my $dayJob + >> Family. >> >> regards, Achim >> >> >> >> 2016-10-02 5:35 GMT+02:00 Niclas Hedhman <nic...@hedhman.org>: >> >>> Honestly, if this is to be fixed, I think Pax Web should support Managed >>> Service Factory, and instantiate separate virtual host services according >>> to a provided configuration. That configuration should contain which WAB(s) >>> goes into that virtual host, together with any other virtual host >>> configuration. >>> >>> To me, that seems to be the right solution forward, maintains OSGi >>> compatibility, doesn't introduce new config args on WABs and doesn't treat >>> "one domain" different than another. >>> >>> I think the tricky bit is to make the default case and the MSF >>> instantiations play nicely with each other, but that is an design >>> implementation detail at this stage. >>> >>> Cheers >>> Niclas >>> >>> On Sat, Oct 1, 2016 at 4:49 PM, iJava <pavelka...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> I analyzed situation again and I am sure I am right. How I explain this >>>> - if *only* >>>> web-contextpath is used then all war bundles (wabs) are inside one >>>> domain. >>>> Obvious if you need more then one domains (virtualhosts) this >>>> limitation is >>>> unpleasant. So I am sure that when bundle is deployed it must have >>>> *two* >>>> settings: >>>> Layer one - virtualhosts (plural) >>>> Layer two - web-contextpath. >>>> In this case the deployer has all the advantages. He can create N sites >>>> And inside every virtualhost he can make N contexts if he needs. >>>> >>>> I am sure that this functionality must be developed. Pax-web is great >>>> product >>>> and with such functionality it will have all main functionality of a >>>> good web server. >>>> >>>> I would be glad to hear others opinion about such New Feature. >>>> >>>> Best regards, >>>> >>>> >>>> пятница, 30 сентября 2016 г., 18:14:33 UTC+3 пользователь iJava написал: >>>> >>>>> Ok Achim. >>>>> >>>>> I understood the situation. You know the architecture of pax-web well. >>>>> Could you say - how difficult >>>>> it can be to make some extender (plugin etc) to link wabs not to >>>>> web-contextpath but to virtualhosts >>>>> and to make them all work with one port like it is in usual web >>>>> servers (for example apache). >>>>> Please, note I don't care about specification - I care about normal >>>>> work. >>>>> >>>>> Best regards, >>>>> >>>>> пятница, 30 сентября 2016 г., 18:06:23 UTC+3 пользователь Achim >>>>> Nierbeck написал: >>>>>> >>>>>> I never said Pax-Web is a complete replacement for GlassFish, >>>>>> it's a WebContainer for OSGi environments, which fulfills the OSGi >>>>>> spec. >>>>>> It uses Jetty, Undertow or Tomcat to do so. AND it gives you most of >>>>>> the benefits of those underlying servers in the >>>>>> same way. If you're not satisfied because you expect something >>>>>> different. I'm sorry to hear >>>>>> but nothing we can do about. >>>>>> >>>>>> regards, Achim >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> 2016-09-30 17:04 GMT+02:00 Achim Nierbeck <bcan...@googlemail.com>: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Well, in that case try to use GlassFish again. >>>>>>> GlassFish uses a complete different strategy. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Regards, Achim >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 2016-09-30 17:02 GMT+02:00 iJava <pavelka...@gmail.com>: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Something is wrong here. I worked with glassfish. Everything starts >>>>>>>> with glassfish domain. >>>>>>>> In one domain you usually have one http connector and one https >>>>>>>> connector. After that in >>>>>>>> one domain you can have multiple virtual hosts. When you deploy >>>>>>>> osgi bundle you >>>>>>>> in manifest have Web-ContextPath and VirtualServers. So you can >>>>>>>> have N sites >>>>>>>> (example.com, boo.org, blablabla.net) with WebContextPath / and it >>>>>>>> is not necessary >>>>>>>> to create new connectors for new ports. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I know it well, because I remember it took me some time to make it >>>>>>>> work. >>>>>>>> And I was very glad because it is easy to work with one port then >>>>>>>> with N. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Now you suggest me to go back and again work with N ports. I am >>>>>>>> shocked and killed. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> пятница, 30 сентября 2016 г., 17:49:30 UTC+3 пользователь Achim >>>>>>>> Nierbeck написал: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Hi, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> yes, you can only have one Web-ContextPath per WAB. "/" is >>>>>>>>> especially tricky since you can also have HttpService servlets >>>>>>>>> listening on >>>>>>>>> that one. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> regards, Achim >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> 2016-09-30 16:46 GMT+02:00 iJava <pavelka...@gmail.com>: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Hi Achim >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Thank you for the links, I wil study them now. So, do I >>>>>>>>>> understand it right - >>>>>>>>>> accroding to specs I can have only one bundle with >>>>>>>>>> web-contextpath / for one port ? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Best regards, >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> пятница, 30 сентября 2016 г., 17:37:55 UTC+3 пользователь Achim >>>>>>>>>> Nierbeck написал: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> It's in the spec ... >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Now, if you want to run virtual hosts, take a look at the links >>>>>>>>>>> below. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> regards, Achim >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> [1] - https://github.com/ops4j/org.ops4j.pax.web/blob/master/pax >>>>>>>>>>> -web-itest/pax-web-itest-container/pax-web-itest-container- >>>>>>>>>>> jetty/src/test/java/org/ops4j/pax/web/itest/jetty/JettyConfi >>>>>>>>>>> gurationExtendedIntegrationTest.java >>>>>>>>>>> [2] - https://github.com/ops4j/org.ops4j.pax.web/blob/master/pax >>>>>>>>>>> -web-itest/pax-web-itest-container/pax-web-itest-container- >>>>>>>>>>> jetty/src/test/java/org/ops4j/pax/web/itest/jetty/JettyConfi >>>>>>>>>>> gurationExtendedTwoIntegrationTest.java >>>>>>>>>>> [3] - http://notizblog.nierbeck.de/2013/01/bind-certain-web-appl >>>>>>>>>>> ications-to-specific-httpconnectors/ >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> 2016-09-30 16:23 GMT+02:00 Pavel Kastornyy <pavelka...@gmail.com >>>>>>>>>>> >: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Achim, I understand you, but why? If the domains are different >>>>>>>>>>>> why must I change web-contextpath? For example, lets suppose >>>>>>>>>>>> I have five different sites on one osgi and for every site I >>>>>>>>>>>> have >>>>>>>>>>>> separate wab (which is logical) and every wab has only one >>>>>>>>>>>> context >>>>>>>>>>>> - /. It is normal situation - take a look at any web server. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Best regards, >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On 30.09.2016 17:19, 'Achim Nierbeck' via OPS4J wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> The Manifest entry Web-ContextPath is the one in charge of >>>>>>>>>>>>> where the >>>>>>>>>>>>> application resides in. >>>>>>>>>>>>> So in that case you need to make sure of different >>>>>>>>>>>>> Web-ContextPaths. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> regards, Achim >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 2016-09-30 16:09 GMT+02:00 iJava <pavelka...@gmail.com>: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Achim, >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes, you are right. The same web-contextpath in both bundles: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> / >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> But it seems to be a bug because in bundle A I have >>>>>>>>>>>>>> jetty-web.xml >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> <Configure class="org.eclipse.jetty.servl >>>>>>>>>>>>>> et.ServletContextHandler"> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> <Set name="virtualHosts"> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> <Array type="java.lang.String"> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> <Item>example.com</Item> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> <Item>www.example.com</Item> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> </Array> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> </Set> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> </Configure> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> and in bundle B I have jetty-web.xml >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> <Configure class="org.eclipse.jetty.servl >>>>>>>>>>>>>> et.ServletContextHandler"> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> <Set name="virtualHosts"> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> <Array type="java.lang.String"> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> <Item>foo.example.com</Item> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> <Item>www.foo.example.com</Item> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> </Array> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> </Set> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> </Configure> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> пятница, 30 сентября 2016 г., 16:54:24 UTC+3 пользователь >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Achim Nierbeck >>>>>>>>>>>>>> написал: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this seems to be a rather strange bug. Do both of the war >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> maybe have the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> same web-contextpath? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> regards, Achim >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2016-09-30 14:09 GMT+02:00 iJava <pavelka...@gmail.com>: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi all >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It may seem to be funny question but I have the following >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> situation. I >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have two war bundles A and B. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> When I start and install only bundle A - it works ok. When >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I start and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> install only bundle B it works ok. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> When I try to install both of them always only the first >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> works. The >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> servlet in the second bundle is not >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> instantiated. 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