Hi Serge,

We are using a custom karaf with the Tomcat container because we have a lot 
of tomcat specific stuff in the software that runs on top of it, so Tomcat 
support is quite crucial for us.

Best regards
Stephan

Am Dienstag, 7. Juli 2020 13:32:11 UTC+2 schrieb Serge Huber:
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> Hi guys, 
>
> Just a quick question: what's the use case for the support of Tomcat and 
> Undertow?
>
> Just wondering if it would be possible to focus on Jetty?
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> On Tue, Jul 7, 2020 at 7:41 AM Grzegorz Grzybek <[email protected] 
> <javascript:>> wrote:
>
>> Hello
>>
>> The current state of pax-web, master-improvements branch is that I've 
>> successfully got rid of pax-tipi tomcat libraries. Sure - Tomcat libraries 
>> are not OSGi bundles, but I did something to make maintenance easier. 
>> pax-web simply re-exports all Tomcat packages explicitly by embedding 
>> necessary Tomcat libraries.
>> Even more - there are:
>>  - pax-web-tomcat-common - exports packages from tomcat-api, tomcat-util, 
>> tomcat-util-scan and selected packages from tomcat-embed-core
>>  - pax-web-tomcat - exports the rest
>>
>> Why two bundles? Because pax-web-jsp (Jasper) heavily depends on some 
>> Tomcat packages and we need pax-web-jsp also with Undertow and Jetty.
>>
>> Also - Undertow 2.1 dropped OSGi support... See 
>> https://issues.redhat.com/browse/UNDERTOW-1684, so if we want to have 
>> Undertow 2.1 at some point (and I think before pax-web 8 goes GA, we'll 
>> have to because of CVEs not being backported to 2.0) we'll have to 
>> re-export it anyway from pax-web-undertow.
>>
>> I think not having TIPI will make it easier to maintain pax-web, because 
>> it'd be simply a matter of updating Pax Web to use newer upstream, original 
>> Tomcat version (and soon Undertow 2.1+).
>>
>> During my PTO last week I worked a lot on resource support in Pax Web 8 
>> (master-improvements) - this was very inconsistent and now I use original 
>> "default servlets" from each runtime, with some tweaks to make the 
>> consistent - welcome file handling unification was painful, but I did it! 
>> (trust me - dispatcher.include() with welcome files and default servlet 
>> mapped to something different than "/" was not an easy task ;).
>>
>> During my work I've created these (so far) issues:
>>  - https://github.com/eclipse/jetty.project/pull/5025
>>  - https://github.com/eclipse-ee4j/servlet-api/issues/300
>>
>> I hope to finish my refactoring before summer ends ;)
>>
>> But fortunately, now master-improvements branch is in a state where I 
>> don't plan huge refactorings - I'm now mowing integration tests to new 
>> place (so I know what's working and what doesn't) and if you have time, 
>> I'll be happy to get some help here ;)
>>
>> kind regards
>> Grzegorz Grzybek
>>
>> wt., 7 lip 2020 o 06:51 Jean-Baptiste Onofré <[email protected] 
>> <javascript:>> napisał(a):
>>
>>> Hi Stephan,
>>>
>>> Thanks for the update.
>>>
>>> A side topic we already discussed a bit with Greg is about the effort to 
>>> have more "isolated" bundles for jetty, tomcat and undertow. Today, we are 
>>> suffering a lot to maintain at same level the Pax Web API with the three 
>>> containers. Clearly some methods of the API are mostly Jetty related and 
>>> not easy to implement with other containers.
>>> So, I wonder at some point if we should not have pure httpService impl 
>>> at a high level, and a specific service/API for each container.
>>>
>>> It would allow us to simplify a lot Pax Web and move forward faster.
>>>
>>> Regards
>>> JB
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Jul 6, 2020 at 4:28 PM Stephan Siano <[email protected] 
>>> <javascript:>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> I released the two tipi versions. I also updated the 7.2.x branch and 
>>>> created a pull request for the 7.3.x branch. In order to achieve this, I 
>>>> had to update some integration tests (mainly timing and dependency issues) 
>>>> to get the tomcat integration tests working both with the old and the 
>>>> updated tomcat version.
>>>>
>>>> I am a bit unsure how to proceed with the master and the 
>>>> master-improvements branch. The master branch does not seem very active to 
>>>> me (and is still on tomcat 8.5), the master-improvements branch seems to 
>>>> be 
>>>> work in progress. What is the current state of the tests in these 
>>>> branches? 
>>>> Should I update both of them? If yes, to which Tomcat version should I 
>>>> update the master branch, 8.5.56 as 7.2.x?
>>>>
>>>> Best regards
>>>> Stephan
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Am Dienstag, 23. Juni 2020 16:03:22 UTC+2 schrieb Grzegorz Grzybek:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hello
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>    - Tomcat 8 update requires tipi release.
>>>>>    - Pax Web 7.3.x already uses Tomcat 9 (I've released the tipi 
>>>>>    packages, based (as of pax web 7.3.7) 9.0.16 - remember, 7.3.x is the 
>>>>> "tech 
>>>>>    preview release" with Servlet API 4 == Tomcat 9, Undertow 2 and 
>>>>>    unfortunately same Jetty 9 (because Jetty 10 will be Servlet API 4, 
>>>>> but at 
>>>>>    the same time, it switches to jakarta.* packages....)
>>>>>    - Pax Web 8 will use latest Tomcat 9 and get rid of tipi packages 
>>>>>    (Tomcat jars will be exported from pax-web-tomcat and 
>>>>> pax-web-tomcat-common 
>>>>>    bundles (the latter is new)).
>>>>>
>>>>> regards
>>>>> Grzegorz Grzybek
>>>>>
>>>>> wt., 23 cze 2020 o 15:46 Jean-Baptiste Onofré <[email protected]> 
>>>>> napisał(a):
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It sounds good. Tomcat 8.x should be easy, Tomcat 9 probably needs 
>>>>>> API updates.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>> JB
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tue, Jun 23, 2020 at 9:19 AM Stephan Siano <[email protected]> 
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It has been quite a while since the Tomcat version was updated in 
>>>>>>> Pax-Web. The 7.2.x branch references Tomcat 8.5.32 and the 3.x and 
>>>>>>> master 
>>>>>>> branches references Tomcat 9.0.16.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> These versions are from June 2018 and February 2019, so I think we 
>>>>>>> should update to more recent versions 8.5.56 and 9.0.36.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> What do you think?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Best regards
>>>>>>> Stephan
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