On Feb 11, 2016, at 9:58 AM, Mikael Abrahamsson <[email protected]> wrote:
> Also, just for clarification, your objection is that the proposed document is 
> standards-track, and you want it to be informational? When reading your email 
> it seems sometimes that you don't want this to be a OPSAWG document at all, 
> sometimes that you don't want TACACS documented as an RFC at all, sometimes 
> that your main objection is that there has been a procedural error.

  My objection is all of that.  When people say "We want the draft to be 
standardized for reason X", I have objections to X.  For many versions of X.

- there are procedural issues with WG adoption of the document

- even if there were no procedural issues, the document violates IETF consensus 
as described in RFC 3127

- even if there were no procedural issues or violation of IETF consensus, the 
document does not describe the stated use-case for why it's being adopted

- even if none of the above happened, the functionality in the document 
overlaps 100% with RADIUS, and is therefore technically unnecessary

- even if none of the above happened, the protocol could be sufficiently 
documented via publication as an information document, instead of a standards 
track document


  For each reason individually, and for all of those reasons together, this 
document should not be a standards track document.

> I want TACACS to become documented as an RFC, preferably all functionality 
> currently in wide spread use. In your view, how do we get that done?

  Publish it was an informational document, via an individual submission and AD 
sponsorship.

  Alan DeKok.

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