On 2/10/16 12:57 PM, Alan DeKok wrote:
>   And some more notes
> 
> 7. The charter says:
> 
> "The Operations and Management Area receives occasional proposals for 
> the development and publication of RFCs dealing with operational and
> management topics that are not in scope of an existing working group
> and do not justify the formation of a new working group. "
> 
> 8. This document is competes directly with two existing working groups, 
> RADEXT and DIME, to create a third AAA protocol.

it's pretty hard to argue that we've created something that's been
around since 1993 I;m sure we had this dicussion before circa 1996, I
don't remember it thankfully. I dare say it is inappropriate for dime or
radext to undertake work on tacacs+ under their current charters.

it is entirely unclear how this would interfere with the activities of
either...

> 9.  As such, this document should be explicitly outside of the scope of the 
> OPSAWG.
> 
>> On Feb 10, 2016, at 3:51 PM, Alan DeKok <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> On Feb 10, 2016, at 3:31 PM, Alan DeKok <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> There are a host of procedural problems with how the document was adopted.  
>>> I suggest that the document be withdrawn, and re-submitted as an individual 
>>> draft.
>>
>>  To be clear:
>>
>> 1. the document never had a WG call for adoption as required in Section 
>> 4.2.1 of RFC 6174
>>
>> 2. the charter has not been updated to reflect this work.
>>
>> 3. the charter says:
>>
>>  "All new work items and rechartering proposals  will be brought for 
>> approval with the IESG."
>>
>> 4. I can find no record of this approval taking place.  If it had taken 
>> place, the charter would have been updated.
>>
>> 5. I had objected to this in person at the OPSAWG meeting in IETF 94.  
>> However, the web site shows no minutes from that meeting:
>>
>> https://tools.ietf.org/wg/opsawg/minutes
>>
>> 6. I believe that this document is an incorrect technical choice as per 
>> section 6.5.1 of RFC 2016.
>>
>>  As such, I ask the chairs to withdraw the document as a WG document until 
>> such time as the procedural issues above have been addressed.
>>
>>  Alan DeKok.
>>
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