On 10/13/14 1:03 PM, Joe Touch wrote:
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> On 10/13/2014 12:24 PM, Brian E Carpenter wrote:
> ...
>> Exactly. I believe this draft, and the options draft, are *exactly* what
>> the IETF should do (and why we have an E in our name instead of an S;
>> we are not the Internet Standards Task Force). If our standards are
>> unrealistic, we should be the ones to do something about it...
> 
> If it's that our standards are unrealistic, it would be useful to
> address this as changes to the standards.

It's not entirely unrealistic to expect a consensus about observed
reality to emerge from ops before it evolves into protocol maintenance.

The working groups remit doesn't involve changing standards so frankly
that's right out.

joel

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