RE: What next ?

[Kimberly Smith]

Title: RE: What next ?

Hey, I was just telling someone I was in hell.  A database to dba ratio of 11:1, all 24x7 is simply

not a good ratio.

-----Original Message-----
From: Koivu, Lisa [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2001 12:33 PM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
Subject: RE: What next ?

Ross, you are being superceded as the chief goof.  Get busy!

Me, I had to kiss the current dbas' feet, shower them with compliments about their databases, ask them tough questions, show them how to write pl/sql, grow some grey hair and buy them beer.  I also planted a potato in my back yard behind the tree stump after practicing my Wicca rituals, night chants and fire dances.  Within one year I was a dba :)  and it's been hell ever since.

-----Original Message-----
From:   Gogala, Mladen [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent:   Thursday, June 07, 2001 2:56 PM
To:     Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
Subject:        RE: What next ?

Nope. DBAs are chosen, not trained. To become a good DBA one must
go to Mt. Sinai and talk to a burning bush. If the bush talks back,
then the applicant will have the power to split the seas of data into
partitions. Instead of appealing to pharaoh to let his people go, the real
DBA uses the phrase "will you, please, lay off that @#! beeper and leave me
alone?". DBAs communicate with the developers/users in terms of
commandments.
Disobeying them can have excruciating consequences for all those who dare to
disrespect a DBA. To make, the long story short, being a DBA is a calling
and
not a job.
Sincerely yours,
BDBAFH

-----Original Message-----
Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2001 11:41 AM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L




At 09:50 PM 6/6/01 -0800, you wrote:
>Do you want a paper to say you are marginally qualified to be a DBA or do
>you actually want to learn database administration?
>

To a large extent I agree with you about the relative unimportance of paper
qualifications. However, one thing that a formal course of study is good
for, is to make you aware of all the nooks and crannies of your chosen
subject. For instance, if you are self-taught, and the subject of
replication never comes up, you may never even *know* that it exists. Or,
unless you are very self-disciplined, you may never do anything with crash
recovery until actually presented with the need (a bad time to be learning
it, IMO).

So if you are going to go the self-study route, have a formal plan of some
kind -- whether it's getting hold of the course curriculum for Oracle
courses, of just getting some good DBA books and going through them
beginning to end.




Dennis Taylor
--------------------------------
Living with a saint is harder than being one.

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