You think an 11:1 database to dba ratio is bad?  Try about a 35:1
ratio!  Just not enough hours in the day to check on them all....
 
Alan Aschenbrenner
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Hey, I was just telling someone I was in hell.  A database to dba ratio
of 11:1, all 24x7 is simply 
not a good ratio.

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Ross, you are being superceded as the chief goof.  Get busy! 

Me, I had to kiss the current dbas' feet, shower them with compliments
about their databases, ask them tough questions, show them how to write
pl/sql, grow some grey hair and buy them beer.  I also planted a potato
in my back yard behind the tree stump after practicing my Wicca rituals,
night chants and fire dances.  Within one year I was a dba :)  and it's
been hell ever since.


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        Nope. DBAs are chosen, not trained. To become a good DBA one
must 
go to Mt. Sinai and talk to a burning bush. If the bush talks back, 
then the applicant will have the power to split the seas of data into 
partitions. Instead of appealing to pharaoh to let his people go, the
real 
DBA uses the phrase "will you, please, lay off that @#! beeper and leave
me 
alone?". DBAs communicate with the developers/users in terms of 
commandments. 
Disobeying them can have excruciating consequences for all those who
dare to 
disrespect a DBA. To make, the long story short, being a DBA is a
calling 
and 
not a job. 
Sincerely yours, 
BDBAFH 

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        At 09:50 PM 6/6/01 -0800, you wrote: 
>Do you want a paper to say you are marginally qualified to be a DBA or
do 
>you actually want to learn database administration? 
> 

        To a large extent I agree with you about the relative
unimportance of paper 
qualifications. However, one thing that a formal course of study is good

for, is to make you aware of all the nooks and crannies of your chosen 
subject. For instance, if you are self-taught, and the subject of 
replication never comes up, you may never even *know* that it exists.
Or, 
unless you are very self-disciplined, you may never do anything with
crash 
recovery until actually presented with the need (a bad time to be
learning 
it, IMO). 

        So if you are going to go the self-study route, have a formal
plan of some 
kind -- whether it's getting hold of the course curriculum for Oracle 
courses, of just getting some good DBA books and going through them 
beginning to end. 


        Dennis Taylor 
-------------------------------- 
Living with a saint is harder than being one. 

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