Then Ross ...... I would look them in the face and say "If you have not
known for weeks then it can't be all that damn critical now can it !"
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Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2001 4:37 PM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
You think 35:1 is bad! Try 69:(1/2) ( I work half fast )
Sometimes a critical 24x7 database goes down and people
don't know for weeks!
|| -----Original Message-----
|| From: Alan Aschenbrenner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
|| Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2001 5:14 PM
|| To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
|| Subject: RE: What next ?
||
||
||
|| You think an 11:1 database to dba ratio is bad? Try about a 35:1
|| ratio! Just not enough hours in the day to check on them all....
||
|| Alan Aschenbrenner
|| IHS Group
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|| -----Original Message-----
|| Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2001 1:47 PM
|| To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
||
||
|| Hey, I was just telling someone I was in hell. A database
|| to dba ratio
|| of 11:1, all 24x7 is simply
|| not a good ratio.
||
|| -----Original Message-----
|| Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2001 12:33 PM
|| To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
||
||
||
|| Ross, you are being superceded as the chief goof. Get busy!
||
|| Me, I had to kiss the current dbas' feet, shower them with
|| compliments
|| about their databases, ask them tough questions, show them
|| how to write
|| pl/sql, grow some grey hair and buy them beer. I also
|| planted a potato
|| in my back yard behind the tree stump after practicing my
|| Wicca rituals,
|| night chants and fire dances. Within one year I was a dba
|| :) and it's
|| been hell ever since.
||
||
|| -----Original Message-----
|| Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2001 2:56 PM
|| To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
||
|| Nope. DBAs are chosen, not trained. To become a good DBA one
|| must
|| go to Mt. Sinai and talk to a burning bush. If the bush talks back,
|| then the applicant will have the power to split the seas of
|| data into
|| partitions. Instead of appealing to pharaoh to let his people go, the
|| real
|| DBA uses the phrase "will you, please, lay off that @#!
|| beeper and leave
|| me
|| alone?". DBAs communicate with the developers/users in terms of
|| commandments.
|| Disobeying them can have excruciating consequences for all those who
|| dare to
|| disrespect a DBA. To make, the long story short, being a DBA is a
|| calling
|| and
|| not a job.
|| Sincerely yours,
|| BDBAFH
||
|| -----Original Message-----
|| Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2001 11:41 AM
|| To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
||
||
|| At 09:50 PM 6/6/01 -0800, you wrote:
|| >Do you want a paper to say you are marginally qualified to
|| be a DBA or
|| do
|| >you actually want to learn database administration?
|| >
||
|| To a large extent I agree with you about the relative
|| unimportance of paper
|| qualifications. However, one thing that a formal course of
|| study is good
||
|| for, is to make you aware of all the nooks and crannies of
|| your chosen
|| subject. For instance, if you are self-taught, and the subject of
|| replication never comes up, you may never even *know* that it exists.
|| Or,
|| unless you are very self-disciplined, you may never do anything with
|| crash
|| recovery until actually presented with the need (a bad time to be
|| learning
|| it, IMO).
||
|| So if you are going to go the self-study route, have a formal
|| plan of some
|| kind -- whether it's getting hold of the course curriculum
|| for Oracle
|| courses, of just getting some good DBA books and going through them
|| beginning to end.
||
||
|| Dennis Taylor
|| --------------------------------
|| Living with a saint is harder than being one.
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