Title: RE: OT - interviewing your superior(fun question)

Interesting post Patrice.  Thanks for sharing this.

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    From:   Boivin, Patrice J [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
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    Subject:        RE: OT - interviewing your superior(fun question)

    ISO9000 because it will tell you whether the shop is methodical or not.
    Whether there are expected consistent deliverables or not.

    At the same time, because ISO certification is a double-edged sword, you
    will find out whether the manager is an empire builder, and whether they
    implemented ISO properly there.  In some places ISO is just a huge paperwork
    exercise, � la Dilbert.

    In other places ISO certification can be used to prevent narcissistic
    careerist empire builders from circumventing company policies re. staffing
    allotments, resource distribution within departments, and whether the staff
    there is qualified to do their jobs or not.  ISO can also be use to prevent
    overlaps in responsibility, and it can force managers to really take
    responsibility for their departments to walk the talk so to speak.

    Before I reincarnated as an Oracle DBA I worked in a pharmaceutical
    company's audit department and one manager absolutely refused to be specific
    about what each of his staff people's responsibilities were.  He wanted to
    peg problems on any of them, from day to day, and not leave a record, so
    that if there ever was a problem he could "delegate" accountability to his
    subordinates.

    The euphemism for this sort of thing is "a team player" - when you see that
    on job postings, be wary.

    Anyway, I'm cutting down on the e-mails now.  That should be a relief to
    some list members.

    Patrice Boivin
    Systems Analyst (Oracle Certified DBA)

    Systems Admin & Operations | Admin. et Exploit. des syst�mes
    Technology Services        | Services technologiques
    Informatics Branch         | Direction de l'informatique
    Maritimes Region, DFO      | R�gion des Maritimes, MPO

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            From:   Mark Leith [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
            Sent:   Thursday, June 21, 2001 10:45 AM
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            Or just - are you certified? :)

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            Patrice J
            Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2001 12:36
            To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L


            How about:  Are you ISO9000 certified?

            : )

            Patrice Boivin
            Systems Analyst (Oracle Certified DBA)

            Systems Admin & Operations | Admin. et Exploit. des syst�mes
            Technology Services        | Services technologiques
            Informatics Branch         | Direction de l'informatique
            Maritimes Region, DFO      | R�gion des Maritimes, MPO

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                    From:   Daniel Curry [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
                    Sent:   Wednesday, June 20, 2001 8:50 PM
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                    Subject:        RE: OT - interviewing your superior(fun
    question)

                    I like the other fun question that was sent to me privately.

                    What makes you better qualified than me, to do my job?

                    Daniel Curry
                    Systems Administrator
                    CGtime, Inc.
                    625 Second Street
                    Suite 201
                    San Francisco, CA 94107
                    ph: 415-348-6516
                    fx: 415-348-6505
                    cell: 510-304-7889

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                    Sent:   Wednesday, June 20, 2001 3:56 PM
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                    Subject:        Re: OT - interviewing your superior(fun
    question)

                    Ok i'll throw one in for fun:

                    Are you willing to give me a 25% pay increase every year
    regardless
            of
                    state of the company?

                    Joe
                    Daniel Curry wrote:
                    >
                    > I am in a position to interview candidates who will
    ultimately be
            my
                    > boss.
                    >
                    > I am the net admin in a mixed Unix/Win/Linux environment,
    with
            Oracle
                    > databases, but no DBA (very simple databases).
                    >
                    > My question is for 'example' questions to ask these guys
    to get a
            full
                    > grasp of their management styles, political abilities,
    technical
                    > competencies, etc.  Any suggestions would be useful.
                    >
                    > Thanks.
                    >
                    > Daniel Curry
                    > Systems Administrator
                    > CGtime, Inc.
                    > 625 Second Street

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