one of my old bosses used to prefix things with "if Rachel gets hit by
a bus...."

still didn't hire anyone else, just asked me to document


--- "Koivu, Lisa" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Another angle:  when I left my last job, I was the only dba.  They
> panicked
> and did everything they could to try to keep me.  The result was they
> were
> left without a skilled dedicated dba, assigning my job
> responsibilities to a
> bda (big dumb a$$) who tried to learn it in one week.  
> 
> Any manager should be well aware of how dependent they become on just
> one
> person in such an important role.  What if that person gets hit by a
> bus?
> 
> Lisa Koivu
> Oracle Database Administrator
> Fairfield Resorts, Inc.
> 954-935-4117
> 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From:       Christopher Spence [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent:       Friday, September 21, 2001 9:15 AM
> > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> > Subject:    RE: 2nd DBA or ?
> > 
> > Agreed, it is in the best interest of the company to have two
> Oracle
> > professionals.  ESPECIALLY if your doing in house development.
> > 
> > Production support, generally the amount of dba's is very black and
> white,
> > you can tell by the amount of work they are doing and how much has
> to be
> > put
> > off to the next day.  As for development, it is not as measurable. 
> I tend
> > to like a lot of involvement with development, even help out code
> when
> > there
> > are some issues that need to resolve quickly.  It is very
> noticeable when
> > a
> > product is development without dba involvement.
> > 
> > 
> > "Do not criticize someone until you walked a mile in their shoes,
> that way
> > when you criticize them, you are a mile a way and have their
> shoes."
> > 
> > Christopher R. Spence 
> > Oracle DBA
> > Phone: (978) 322-5744
> > Fax:    (707) 885-2275
> > 
> > Fuelspot
> > 73 Princeton Street
> > North, Chelmsford 01863
> >  
> > 
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2001 11:10 PM
> > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> > 
> > Well, this seems to me to be a cynical/paranoid way of looking at
> things.
> > Probably true in some circles though.
> > 
> > Personally, I'm with the Hire A Second DBA crowd. I, too, would
> much
> > rather
> > have a life. Too much fun stuff to do out there, too many places to
> go and
> > beer to drink.
> > 
> > --Walt (I'm goin' fishin') Weaver
> >   Bozeman, Montana
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2001 5:45 PM
> > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> > 
> > 
> > If we lived in a perfect world, where the employee
> > matters, then I would hire an additional DBA to share
> > ideas and responsibility.
> > 
> > However, since we live in a capatilistic world, I
> > would do the job by myself for the following reasons:
> > 1. Management will see one of you as being redundant
> > during financial problems because there was one person
> > doing this job before, therefore they can get rid of
> > one of the DBAs and still be ok.
> > 
> > 2. Mamangement acknowledges that there is a possible
> > need to hire an additional person, thus acknowledging
> > that you do the job of two people. This is a benefit
> > to you for asking for a big pay increase.
> > 
> > 3. Hiring Oracle consultants and purchasing software
> > are tax deductible to the company as opposed to paying
> > a salary to another person and providing them with
> > Health Care and Office Space. At least in the USA.
> > 
> > 4. If you hire a entry-level DBA, chances are that
> > he/she  will learn his skill set from you and then
> > move on to bigger opportunities (which puts you back
> > to square one) or he/she will just stab you in the
> > back to try to get your job.
> > 
> > Regards,
> > Satar
> > 
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> > -- 
> > Author: Weaver, Walt
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