Doh! Sorry for the oversite - lots on my mind lately. You're definitely invited, Jeff. We'll work sumthin' out.
--S Jeffery Stevenson wrote: > > Bail money??? Why wasn't I invited? :) > > Yeah, like was mentioned, there's some positions available in Austin, but > not as prevalent as it used to be. VC money has been tightened up so a lot > of these companies looking to grow have been hit hard (and the bigger > companies are just cutting back to save money). The problem I see though is > that companies seem to be trimming back too much. I'm starting to hear > little rumours here and there of companies going, "Maybe we shouldn't have > gotten rid of most of our support/operations people?" It's not bad here > though...it'll pick back up again...and I agree it's a great place to live. > > Guvm'nt jobs? Eep! Yeah Scott, I noticed that SA had about 4 times as many > Oracle/DBA positions listed than Austin when I scouting the market for a > friend who's looking at this area. That scared me... > > Jeffery Stevenson > Databeast Slayer > Medical Present Value, Inc. > Austin, TX > > -----Original Message----- > Sent: Monday, November 12, 2001 9:30 PM > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > Description for > > David, > > Yes you should drive down/me drive up to meet. Just let me get past some > current difficulties. We could leave bail money with the wives! Hehehe... > > San Antonio (SA) has been hit, but definitely not as hard as > Austin/Dallas/Houston. I'll probably regret this (if I end up competing for > a job), but anyone looking for a job could do a lot worse than looking in > SA. Most of the tech jobs here are government, gov/private consulting, or > big company IT (USAA, MCI, SBC, etc). The largest industry however is > tourism, which has been hammered. This doesn't affect techies much though. > > If one has no qualms about managing databases of bigger and better ways to > "break things and kill people", then DOD contracting is the way to go in > Central Texas. Cost of living is very low, and SA is the 8th largest city > in the US. Upsides: steady work, excellent food, mild winters, lots of > recreational activities. Downsides: Inept city government, yearly drought, > HOT for 9 months of the year. > > --Scott Shafer > San Antonio, TX > > ----- Original Message ----- > To: "Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Monday, November 12, 2001 7:05 PM > Description for > > > > > Thanks folks for the replies I got. Compiled them into a sort of > > superDeveloper/Data Architect/All-Around wonderful human being job > > description. > > > > The job market in Austin is really poor for us "high-tech" types right > now. > > This was the home or a principal branch office of a large number of failed > > dot coms and Internet business ventures. A partial list of Austin > failures > > includes (but is by no means limited to): > > > > Netpliance > > Hand Technologies > > ConnectSouth (my alma mater) > > DrKoop.Com > > Garden.Com > > Furniture.Com > > carOrder.Com > > > > Layoffs in many (most?) surviving companies have further added to the glut > > of talent out on the streets. Other large Austin employers reducing staff > > in the tech area include AMD, Motorola, SamSung, IBM, Perficient and CSC. > > Non-tech companies such as law firms, travel agencies (they're pretty much > > toast right now anyway), and advertising agencies have been really hurt by > > the abrupt cessation of money which used to flow from the startups. > > > > It's still a great place to live, but a month or two ago, even the Austin > > American-Statesman noted that the area was experiencing a "brain-drain" as > > the job-seeker/jobs ratio climbed ever higher. Last week, they posited > the > > major reason for the area not experiencing a total employment tragedy was > > the abundance of State and Local jobs, which, until about 9 months ago, > > went begging as private industry vacuumed anybody who could spell "PC" off > > the street (if you could spell DBA you had it made). > > > > The Sunday help-wanted ads have gone from 4 full pages of "Computer Jobs" > > to less than two columns, and there are very few senior positions > > available. We even used to have out-of-town companies advertise, but that > > trend has dried up as well. > > > > It anin't pretty folks. > > > > Maybe Scott (I still think I ought to drive down just to meet the guy) in > > San Antonio can give us a more regional perspective. At the height of the > > frenzy, I know a bunch of people who left positions in SA to come to > > Austin. > > > > > > David A. Barbour > > Oracle DBA, OCP > > AISD > > 512-414-1002 > > > > > > > > "Troiano, Paul > > (CAP, GEFA)" To: Multiple recipients > of list ORACLE-L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > <Paul.Troiano@geca cc: > > pital.com> Subject: RE: Help!: Job > Description for Data Architect > > Sent by: > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > 11/12/2001 05:40 > > PM > > Please respond to > > ORACLE-L > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > How is the job market in Austin? > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Monday, November 12, 2001 4:00 PM > > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > > > > > > > > Hey, the job market isn't any better (worse?) here in Austin-by-God, TX > > than anywhere else. We've got a chance to hire a real talented developer > > (worked with him before - taught me a lot), but his salary is just a bit > > more than the school district is used to paying for "programmers." I > > suggested they come up with a new job description to justify the salary > > (it's not that great folks - this guy just wants to stay in Austin). > > "Wonderful idea" says the boss, "what should we call the position to > > confuse the HR folks?" "Data Architect" I reply. "Great" says he, "write > > it up and have it on my desk by 5:30." > > > > Anybody got one I can shamelessly plagiarize? > > > > David A. 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