OK- Te"kllme" is okay then... Just the habaneros is a bad thing, huh?
greg -----Original Message----- Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 2:25 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Descrip That's why if you ever see a sick Texan - he/she/it is on its deathbed. Tequila + habaneros = health. --S "Gogala, Mladen" wrote: > > Habanero salsa as a cure for heat???? Well, I suppose you're using > kill or cure method down there in TX. > > -----Original Message----- > Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 1:25 PM > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > Descrip > > You adapt quickly. And the Gods invented air conditioning, margaritas, > and habanero salsa for just such environments. > > --S > > Rachel Carmichael wrote: > > > > 'cause there ain't enough money in the world to bail you out? > > > > The only problem I have with Texas is the heat. I have good friends > > down there (you guys all know who you are and if you don't, WAKE UP)... > > but I went down over Memorial Day weekend to SA and nearly melted from > > the humidity. This does nothing to induce me to move South. > > > > --- Jeffery Stevenson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Bail money??? Why wasn't I invited? :) > > > > > > Yeah, like was mentioned, there's some positions available in Austin, > > > but > > > not as prevalent as it used to be. VC money has been tightened up so > > > a lot > > > of these companies looking to grow have been hit hard (and the bigger > > > companies are just cutting back to save money). The problem I see > > > though is > > > that companies seem to be trimming back too much. I'm starting to > > > hear > > > little rumours here and there of companies going, "Maybe we shouldn't > > > have > > > gotten rid of most of our support/operations people?" It's not bad > > > here > > > though...it'll pick back up again...and I agree it's a great place to > > > live. > > > > > > Guvm'nt jobs? Eep! Yeah Scott, I noticed that SA had about 4 times > > > as many > > > Oracle/DBA positions listed than Austin when I scouting the market > > > for a > > > friend who's looking at this area. That scared me... > > > > > > Jeffery Stevenson > > > Databeast Slayer > > > Medical Present Value, Inc. > > > Austin, TX > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > Sent: Monday, November 12, 2001 9:30 PM > > > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > > > Description for > > > > > > > > > David, > > > > > > Yes you should drive down/me drive up to meet. Just let me get past > > > some > > > current difficulties. We could leave bail money with the wives! > > > Hehehe... > > > > > > San Antonio (SA) has been hit, but definitely not as hard as > > > Austin/Dallas/Houston. I'll probably regret this (if I end up > > > competing for > > > a job), but anyone looking for a job could do a lot worse than > > > looking in > > > SA. Most of the tech jobs here are government, gov/private > > > consulting, or > > > big company IT (USAA, MCI, SBC, etc). The largest industry however > > > is > > > tourism, which has been hammered. This doesn't affect techies much > > > though. > > > > > > If one has no qualms about managing databases of bigger and better > > > ways to > > > "break things and kill people", then DOD contracting is the way to go > > > in > > > Central Texas. Cost of living is very low, and SA is the 8th largest > > > city > > > in the US. Upsides: steady work, excellent food, mild winters, lots > > > of > > > recreational activities. Downsides: Inept city government, yearly > > > drought, > > > HOT for 9 months of the year. > > > > > > --Scott Shafer > > > San Antonio, TX > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > To: "Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > Sent: Monday, November 12, 2001 7:05 PM > > > Description for > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks folks for the replies I got. Compiled them into a sort of > > > > superDeveloper/Data Architect/All-Around wonderful human being job > > > > description. > > > > > > > > The job market in Austin is really poor for us "high-tech" types > > > right > > > now. > > > > This was the home or a principal branch office of a large number of > > > failed > > > > dot coms and Internet business ventures. A partial list of Austin > > > failures > > > > includes (but is by no means limited to): > > > > > > > > Netpliance > > > > Hand Technologies > > > > ConnectSouth (my alma mater) > > > > DrKoop.Com > > > > Garden.Com > > > > Furniture.Com > > > > carOrder.Com > > > > > > > > Layoffs in many (most?) surviving companies have further added to > > > the glut > > > > of talent out on the streets. Other large Austin employers > > > reducing staff > > > > in the tech area include AMD, Motorola, SamSung, IBM, Perficient > > > and CSC. > > > > Non-tech companies such as law firms, travel agencies (they're > > > pretty much > > > > toast right now anyway), and advertising agencies have been really > > > hurt by > > > > the abrupt cessation of money which used to flow from the startups. > > > > > > > > It's still a great place to live, but a month or two ago, even the > > > Austin > > > > American-Statesman noted that the area was experiencing a > > > "brain-drain" as > > > > the job-seeker/jobs ratio climbed ever higher. Last week, they > > > posited > > > the > > > > major reason for the area not experiencing a total employment > > > tragedy was > > > > the abundance of State and Local jobs, which, until about 9 months > > > ago, > > > > went begging as private industry vacuumed anybody who could spell > > > "PC" off > > > > the street (if you could spell DBA you had it made). > > > > > > > > The Sunday help-wanted ads have gone from 4 full pages of "Computer > > > Jobs" > > > > to less than two columns, and there are very few senior positions > > > > available. We even used to have out-of-town companies advertise, > > > but that > > > > trend has dried up as well. > > > > > > > > It anin't pretty folks. > > > > > > > > Maybe Scott (I still think I ought to drive down just to meet the > > > guy) in > > > > San Antonio can give us a more regional perspective. At the height > > > of the > > > > frenzy, I know a bunch of people who left positions in SA to come > > > to > > > > Austin. > > > > > > > > > > > > David A. Barbour > > > > Oracle DBA, OCP > > > > AISD > > > > 512-414-1002 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Troiano, Paul > > > > (CAP, GEFA)" To: Multiple > > > recipients > > > of list ORACLE-L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > <Paul.Troiano@geca cc: > > > > pital.com> Subject: RE: > > > Help!: Job > > > Description for Data Architect > > > > Sent by: > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > > > > > 11/12/2001 05:40 > > > > PM > > > > Please respond to > > > > ORACLE-L > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > How is the job market in Austin? > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > > Sent: Monday, November 12, 2001 4:00 PM > > > > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hey, the job market isn't any better (worse?) here in > > > Austin-by-God, TX > > > > than anywhere else. We've got a chance to hire a real talented > > > developer > > > > (worked with him before - taught me a lot), but his salary is just > > > a bit > > > > more than the school district is used to paying for "programmers." > > > I > > > > suggested they come up with a new job description to justify the > > > salary > > > > (it's not that great folks - this guy just wants to stay in > > > Austin). > > > > "Wonderful idea" says the boss, "what should we call the position > > > to > > > > confuse the HR folks?" "Data Architect" I reply. "Great" says he, > > > "write > > > > it up and have it on my desk by 5:30." > > > > > === message truncated === > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Do You Yahoo!? > > Find the one for you at Yahoo! Personals > > http://personals.yahoo.com > > -- > > Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com > > -- > > Author: Rachel Carmichael > > INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Fat City Network Services -- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 > > San Diego, California -- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message > > to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in > > the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L > > (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). 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