at this point guys.... move this to the ot list before Jared gets annoyed...
but while I have your attention: I've SEEN Scott and Jeff in the same room. Ladies, find those chastity belts -;) --- Scott Shafer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Doh! Sorry for the oversite - lots on my mind lately. You're > definitely invited, Jeff. We'll work sumthin' out. > > --S > > > Jeffery Stevenson wrote: > > > > Bail money??? Why wasn't I invited? :) > > > > Yeah, like was mentioned, there's some positions available in > Austin, but > > not as prevalent as it used to be. VC money has been tightened up > so a lot > > of these companies looking to grow have been hit hard (and the > bigger > > companies are just cutting back to save money). The problem I see > though is > > that companies seem to be trimming back too much. I'm starting to > hear > > little rumours here and there of companies going, "Maybe we > shouldn't have > > gotten rid of most of our support/operations people?" It's not bad > here > > though...it'll pick back up again...and I agree it's a great place > to live. > > > > Guvm'nt jobs? Eep! Yeah Scott, I noticed that SA had about 4 > times as many > > Oracle/DBA positions listed than Austin when I scouting the market > for a > > friend who's looking at this area. That scared me... > > > > Jeffery Stevenson > > Databeast Slayer > > Medical Present Value, Inc. > > Austin, TX > > > > -----Original Message----- > > Sent: Monday, November 12, 2001 9:30 PM > > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > > Description for > > > > David, > > > > Yes you should drive down/me drive up to meet. Just let me get > past some > > current difficulties. We could leave bail money with the wives! > Hehehe... > > > > San Antonio (SA) has been hit, but definitely not as hard as > > Austin/Dallas/Houston. I'll probably regret this (if I end up > competing for > > a job), but anyone looking for a job could do a lot worse than > looking in > > SA. Most of the tech jobs here are government, gov/private > consulting, or > > big company IT (USAA, MCI, SBC, etc). The largest industry however > is > > tourism, which has been hammered. This doesn't affect techies much > though. > > > > If one has no qualms about managing databases of bigger and better > ways to > > "break things and kill people", then DOD contracting is the way to > go in > > Central Texas. Cost of living is very low, and SA is the 8th > largest city > > in the US. Upsides: steady work, excellent food, mild winters, > lots of > > recreational activities. Downsides: Inept city government, yearly > drought, > > HOT for 9 months of the year. > > > > --Scott Shafer > > San Antonio, TX > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > To: "Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Sent: Monday, November 12, 2001 7:05 PM > > Description for > > > > > > > > Thanks folks for the replies I got. Compiled them into a sort of > > > superDeveloper/Data Architect/All-Around wonderful human being > job > > > description. > > > > > > The job market in Austin is really poor for us "high-tech" types > right > > now. > > > This was the home or a principal branch office of a large number > of failed > > > dot coms and Internet business ventures. A partial list of > Austin > > failures > > > includes (but is by no means limited to): > > > > > > Netpliance > > > Hand Technologies > > > ConnectSouth (my alma mater) > > > DrKoop.Com > > > Garden.Com > > > Furniture.Com > > > carOrder.Com > > > > > > Layoffs in many (most?) surviving companies have further added to > the glut > > > of talent out on the streets. Other large Austin employers > reducing staff > > > in the tech area include AMD, Motorola, SamSung, IBM, Perficient > and CSC. > > > Non-tech companies such as law firms, travel agencies (they're > pretty much > > > toast right now anyway), and advertising agencies have been > really hurt by > > > the abrupt cessation of money which used to flow from the > startups. > > > > > > It's still a great place to live, but a month or two ago, even > the Austin > > > American-Statesman noted that the area was experiencing a > "brain-drain" as > > > the job-seeker/jobs ratio climbed ever higher. Last week, they > posited > > the > > > major reason for the area not experiencing a total employment > tragedy was > > > the abundance of State and Local jobs, which, until about 9 > months ago, > > > went begging as private industry vacuumed anybody who could spell > "PC" off > > > the street (if you could spell DBA you had it made). > > > > > > The Sunday help-wanted ads have gone from 4 full pages of > "Computer Jobs" > > > to less than two columns, and there are very few senior positions > > > available. We even used to have out-of-town companies advertise, > but that > > > trend has dried up as well. > > > > > > It anin't pretty folks. > > > > > > Maybe Scott (I still think I ought to drive down just to meet the > guy) in > > > San Antonio can give us a more regional perspective. At the > height of the > > > frenzy, I know a bunch of people who left positions in SA to come > to > > > Austin. > > > > > > > > > David A. Barbour > > > Oracle DBA, OCP > > > AISD > > > 512-414-1002 > > > > > > > > > > > > "Troiano, Paul > > > (CAP, GEFA)" To: Multiple > recipients > > of list ORACLE-L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > <Paul.Troiano@geca cc: > > > pital.com> Subject: RE: > Help!: Job > > Description for Data Architect > > > Sent by: > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > > 11/12/2001 05:40 > > > PM > > > Please respond to > > > ORACLE-L > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > How is the job market in Austin? > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > Sent: Monday, November 12, 2001 4:00 PM > > > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > > > > > > > > > > > > Hey, the job market isn't any better (worse?) here in > Austin-by-God, TX > > > than anywhere else. We've got a chance to hire a real talented > developer > > > (worked with him before - taught me a lot), but his salary is > just a bit > > > more than the school district is used to paying for > "programmers." I > > > suggested they come up with a new job description to justify the > salary > === message truncated === __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Find the one for you at Yahoo! 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