The clothing removal is part of the fun (note: tequila helps here) - right up to the part where the tree-huggers try to push me back in the water...
:-( ----- Original Message ----- To: "Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2001 7:10 PM > Jenny, > > It gets cold up north? :) > > My theory has always been that I'd rather be in cold weather than hot. > I can add more layers if I'm cold but there is a limited amount of > clothing I'm willling to take off :) > > But yeah, I suppose I will get used to it if I have to > > Rachel > > --- Jenny Jacobson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Rachael, > > > > In 1996, I moved from Minnesota to Houston Texas (Katy). By the time > > summer rolls around, you get used to the humidity. It's like getting > > used to the COLD up north. > > > > Jenny Jacobson > > > > > > > > On Tue, 13 Nov 2001, Rachel Carmichael wrote: > > > > > 'cause there ain't enough money in the world to bail you out? > > > > > > The only problem I have with Texas is the heat. I have good friends > > > down there (you guys all know who you are and if you don't, WAKE > > UP)... > > > but I went down over Memorial Day weekend to SA and nearly melted > > from > > > the humidity. This does nothing to induce me to move South. > > > > > > > > > > > > --- Jeffery Stevenson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Bail money??? Why wasn't I invited? :) > > > > > > > > Yeah, like was mentioned, there's some positions available in > > Austin, > > > > but > > > > not as prevalent as it used to be. VC money has been tightened > > up so > > > > a lot > > > > of these companies looking to grow have been hit hard (and the > > bigger > > > > companies are just cutting back to save money). The problem I > > see > > > > though is > > > > that companies seem to be trimming back too much. I'm starting > > to > > > > hear > > > > little rumours here and there of companies going, "Maybe we > > shouldn't > > > > have > > > > gotten rid of most of our support/operations people?" It's not > > bad > > > > here > > > > though...it'll pick back up again...and I agree it's a great > > place to > > > > live. > > > > > > > > Guvm'nt jobs? Eep! Yeah Scott, I noticed that SA had about 4 > > times > > > > as many > > > > Oracle/DBA positions listed than Austin when I scouting the > > market > > > > for a > > > > friend who's looking at this area. That scared me... > > > > > > > > Jeffery Stevenson > > > > Databeast Slayer > > > > Medical Present Value, Inc. > > > > Austin, TX > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > Sent: Monday, November 12, 2001 9:30 PM > > > > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > > > > Description for > > > > > > > > > > > > David, > > > > > > > > Yes you should drive down/me drive up to meet. Just let me get > > past > > > > some > > > > current difficulties. We could leave bail money with the wives! > > > > Hehehe... > > > > > > > > San Antonio (SA) has been hit, but definitely not as hard as > > > > Austin/Dallas/Houston. I'll probably regret this (if I end up > > > > competing for > > > > a job), but anyone looking for a job could do a lot worse than > > > > looking in > > > > SA. Most of the tech jobs here are government, gov/private > > > > consulting, or > > > > big company IT (USAA, MCI, SBC, etc). The largest industry > > however > > > > is > > > > tourism, which has been hammered. This doesn't affect techies > > much > > > > though. > > > > > > > > If one has no qualms about managing databases of bigger and > > better > > > > ways to > > > > "break things and kill people", then DOD contracting is the way > > to go > > > > in > > > > Central Texas. Cost of living is very low, and SA is the 8th > > largest > > > > city > > > > in the US. Upsides: steady work, excellent food, mild winters, > > lots > > > > of > > > > recreational activities. Downsides: Inept city government, > > yearly > > > > drought, > > > > HOT for 9 months of the year. > > > > > > > > --Scott Shafer > > > > San Antonio, TX > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > To: "Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > Sent: Monday, November 12, 2001 7:05 PM > > > > Description for > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks folks for the replies I got. Compiled them into a sort > > of > > > > > superDeveloper/Data Architect/All-Around wonderful human being > > job > > > > > description. > > > > > > > > > > The job market in Austin is really poor for us "high-tech" > > types > > > > right > > > > now. > > > > > This was the home or a principal branch office of a large > > number of > > > > failed > > > > > dot coms and Internet business ventures. A partial list of > > Austin > > > > failures > > > > > includes (but is by no means limited to): > > > > > > > > > > Netpliance > > > > > Hand Technologies > > > > > ConnectSouth (my alma mater) > > > > > DrKoop.Com > > > > > Garden.Com > > > > > Furniture.Com > > > > > carOrder.Com > > > > > > > > > > Layoffs in many (most?) surviving companies have further added > > to > > > > the glut > > > > > of talent out on the streets. Other large Austin employers > > > > reducing staff > > > > > in the tech area include AMD, Motorola, SamSung, IBM, > > Perficient > > > > and CSC. > > > > > Non-tech companies such as law firms, travel agencies (they're > > > > pretty much > > > > > toast right now anyway), and advertising agencies have been > > really > > > > hurt by > > > > > the abrupt cessation of money which used to flow from the > > startups. > > > > > > > > > > It's still a great place to live, but a month or two ago, even > > the > > > > Austin > > > > > American-Statesman noted that the area was experiencing a > > > > "brain-drain" as > > > > > the job-seeker/jobs ratio climbed ever higher. Last week, they > > > > posited > > > > the > > > > > major reason for the area not experiencing a total employment > > > > tragedy was > > > > > the abundance of State and Local jobs, which, until about 9 > > months > > > > ago, > > > > > went begging as private industry vacuumed anybody who could > > spell > > > > "PC" off > > > > > the street (if you could spell DBA you had it made). > > > > > > > > > > The Sunday help-wanted ads have gone from 4 full pages of > > "Computer > > > > Jobs" > > > > > to less than two columns, and there are very few senior > > positions > > > > > available. We even used to have out-of-town companies > > advertise, > > > > but that > > > > > trend has dried up as well. > > > > > > > > > > It anin't pretty folks. > > > > > > > > > > Maybe Scott (I still think I ought to drive down just to meet > > the > > > > guy) in > > > > > San Antonio can give us a more regional perspective. At the > > height > > > > of the > > > > > frenzy, I know a bunch of people who left positions in SA to > > come > > > > to > > > === message truncated === > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Find the one for you at Yahoo! Personals > http://personals.yahoo.com > -- > Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com > -- > Author: Rachel Carmichael > INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Fat City Network Services -- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 > San Diego, California -- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message > to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in > the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L > (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). 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