and the index is getting better and better, you can search there as well for things
--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Sorry, I don't find that a problem. > > Use the index, look for relevant chapters in the manual. > > The online manuals have a search feature. It's also > available via WWW at tahiti.oracle.com. > > If you're not sure where to read, then ask someone. > > Asking where to find something in the manual is fine. > > Just don't expect others to do the research. > > Jared > > > > > > "Boivin, Patrice > > J" To: Multiple > recipients of list ORACLE-L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: > > mpo.gc.ca> Subject: RE: RE: > database administration questions > Sent by: > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > 12/27/01 10:50 AM > > Please respond to > > ORACLE-L > > > > > > > > > > A problem with RTFM is when the manual is over 10,000 pages long. > > Regards, > Patrice Boivin > Systems Analyst (Oracle Certified DBA) > > > -----Original Message----- > Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2001 2:15 PM > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > > > Yeah, once they find out this job isn't a cakewalk, they vanish. > > For those that: > > * live for challenge > * are afraid of nothing and not intimidated by complexity > * make that, 'love complexity' ;) > * can't forget about a problem until it's fixed > * willing to RTFM til they drop > * design and execute tests to understand how things work > * RTFM some more > * drive technology. Hey, there's more to a good DBA than databases. > * did I mention RTFM? > * learn from their mistakes > * admit they make mistakes > * RTFM to minimize mistakes > > All others need not apply. > > Jared > > "No guts, no glory" ;) > > > > > > "Kimberly > > Smith" To: Multiple recipients > of > list ORACLE-L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > <ksmith2@myfirs cc: > > tlink.net> Subject: RE: RE: > database > administration questions > Sent by: > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > m > > > > > > 12/27/01 09:00 > > AM > > Please respond > > to ORACLE-L > > > > > > > > > > You need to find some new cooks then. > > -----Original Message----- > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2001 6:50 AM > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > > > In our shop we've tried the cross training tact. Problem was that > those > who > accepted the challenge could not take the heat, so they left the > kitchen. > Damn!!! > > Dick Goulet > > ____________________Reply Separator____________________ > Author: "CHAN Chor Ling Catherine (CSC)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: 12/26/2001 4:50 PM > > I quite agree with Kimberly. I used to be a full-fledge Oracle > programmer > but wanted to dabble with database administration. I asked my boss > whether > I > could be a database administrator. His answer is yes but I still need > to > maintain my current systems. Now, I am a database > administrator-cum-programmer. I support turnkey projects, automate > processes for my users, maintain current projects, install/maintain > database > & support Oracle Applications etc. > > Prepare for lots of OT but what the heck, U will get to learn a lots > of > interesting things in the process .... > > New Bees > -----Original Message----- > From: Kimberly Smith > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2001 1:40 AM > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > Subject: RE: database administration questions > > If you work on a site like I do you could always > cross > train. I am always > looking for suckers (um, people) to be my backup. > Right > now > I use one from > the Unix team and one from the development team. Its > the > only way I get to > take vacations and what no. Check with your current > DBA > and > see if they are > willing to train you while you are off doing your > 'real' > job. Of course, > there are some folks who are worried about job > security (or > are just > assholes) > and they would not give you the time of day. You > don't > want > to learn from > those folks anyway. The excuse, "I'm too busy" is > not > really valid either. > Training someone allowed me to offload some of my > work. > === message truncated === __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send your FREE holiday greetings online! http://greetings.yahoo.com -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Rachel Carmichael INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services -- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California -- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists -------------------------------------------------------------------- To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
