I just like that 'dream' of 'no dba required' ;) 'cause I have heard enough presenters mention it... the new self tuning 9i, the new 'everything dynamic' 9i and such......
- Kirti > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Friday, July 12, 2002 3:14 PM > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > Subject: RE: Oracle 9.2 spfile catch 22 > > > SPFILE concept is good and it is required for reaching the goal of 'no > dba > > required', but it is still far from being 'ready for prime time'. > > I really don't think the DBA will ever be eliminated. > > This kind of thing just gives us more time to spend on other aspects > of the database. > > Just consider how much database/computer savvy is needed > to make runInstaller work. :) > > Jared > > > > > > > "Deshpande, Kirti" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > 07/11/2002 01:37 PM > Please respond to ORACLE-L > > > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > cc: > Subject: RE: Oracle 9.2 spfile catch 22 > > > I would get the DB to function the way I want first using init.ora. Then > switch to SPFILE from init.ora, while preserving a copy of working > init.ora > file. > > Also, when a parameter is changed dynamically with SCOPE=both or spfile, I > recreate my init.ora file as the backup. > > SPFILE concept is good and it is required for reaching the goal of 'no dba > required', but it is still far from being 'ready for prime time'. > > I stopped using SPFILE with a couple of my databases when I was able to > add > db_cache_size to an spfile that already had db_block_buffers (two mutually > exclusive parameters). The next restart of the DB failed. It was good that > > I > had kept the init.ora file. I have not installed 9.2 yet, so I do now know > if such things are verified beforehand and prevented. > > HTH, > > - Kirti > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: DENNIS WILLIAMS [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Thursday, July 11, 2002 12:49 PM > > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > > Subject: Oracle 9.2 spfile catch 22 > > > > Thanks to everyone for the ideas on the init.ora. You were correct that > > the > > answer is indeed with spfile. Now I have discovered a catch-22. > > > > Oracle 9.2, Solaris > > > > 1. If spfile is created with LOG_ARCHIVE_START = true, > > database will not start. Receive the error > > ORA-00439 feature not enabled: Managed Standby > > 2. Creating the spfile with LOG_ARCHIVE_START = false works and the > > database > > starts. Issuing > > ALTER SYSTEM ARCHIVE LOG START > > works, but it isn't changed in the spfile, so the next time Oracle is > > bounced, the archiver doesn't start. > > > > This is starting to smell like a bug, but I thought I'd run it past the > > list > > on the off-chance someone else has gotten archiving turned on for 9.2. > > Thanks. > > -- > > Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com > > > > -- > Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com > -- > Author: > INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Fat City Network Services -- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 > San Diego, California -- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message > to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in > the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L > (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may > also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Deshpande, Kirti INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services -- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California -- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists -------------------------------------------------------------------- To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
