Yes, I can see the picture: PHB comes in with a new install: Hey Yechiel, install this and check it out. If it works OK you are going to be fired.
YES SIR, I drop everything else and make myself unemployed. <LOL> Yechiel Adar Mehish ----- Original Message ----- To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, July 13, 2002 4:18 AM > I want "no DBA required" so I can retire and relax for a while :) > > > --- "Deshpande, Kirti" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I just like that 'dream' of 'no dba required' ;) > > 'cause I have heard enough presenters mention it... the new self > > tuning 9i, > > the new 'everything dynamic' 9i and such...... > > > > > > - Kirti > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > Sent: Friday, July 12, 2002 3:14 PM > > > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > > > Subject: RE: Oracle 9.2 spfile catch 22 > > > > > > > SPFILE concept is good and it is required for reaching the goal > > of 'no > > > dba > > > > required', but it is still far from being 'ready for prime time'. > > > > > > > > I really don't think the DBA will ever be eliminated. > > > > > > This kind of thing just gives us more time to spend on other > > aspects > > > of the database. > > > > > > Just consider how much database/computer savvy is needed > > > to make runInstaller work. :) > > > > > > Jared > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Deshpande, Kirti" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > 07/11/2002 01:37 PM > > > Please respond to ORACLE-L > > > > > > > > > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > cc: > > > Subject: RE: Oracle 9.2 spfile catch 22 > > > > > > > > > I would get the DB to function the way I want first using init.ora. > > Then > > > switch to SPFILE from init.ora, while preserving a copy of working > > > init.ora > > > file. > > > > > > Also, when a parameter is changed dynamically with SCOPE=both or > > spfile, I > > > recreate my init.ora file as the backup. > > > > > > SPFILE concept is good and it is required for reaching the goal of > > 'no dba > > > required', but it is still far from being 'ready for prime time'. > > > > > > I stopped using SPFILE with a couple of my databases when I was > > able to > > > add > > > db_cache_size to an spfile that already had db_block_buffers (two > > mutually > > > exclusive parameters). The next restart of the DB failed. It was > > good that > > > > > > I > > > had kept the init.ora file. I have not installed 9.2 yet, so I do > > now know > > > if such things are verified beforehand and prevented. > > > > > > HTH, > > > > > > - Kirti > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: DENNIS WILLIAMS [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > > Sent: Thursday, July 11, 2002 12:49 PM > > > > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > > > > Subject: Oracle 9.2 spfile catch 22 > > > > > > > > Thanks to everyone for the ideas on the init.ora. You were > > correct that > > > > the > > > > answer is indeed with spfile. Now I have discovered a catch-22. > > > > > > > > Oracle 9.2, Solaris > > > > > > > > 1. If spfile is created with LOG_ARCHIVE_START = true, > > > > database will not start. Receive the error > > > > ORA-00439 feature not enabled: Managed Standby > > > > 2. Creating the spfile with LOG_ARCHIVE_START = false works and > > the > > > > database > > > > starts. Issuing > > > > ALTER SYSTEM ARCHIVE LOG START > > > > works, but it isn't changed in the spfile, so the next time > > Oracle is > > > > bounced, the archiver doesn't start. > > > > > > > > This is starting to smell like a bug, but I thought I'd run it > > past the > > > > list > > > > on the off-chance someone else has gotten archiving turned on for > > 9.2. > > > > Thanks. > > > > -- > > > > Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com > > > -- > > > Author: > > > INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > Fat City Network Services -- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 > > > San Diego, California -- Public Internet access / Mailing > > Lists > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message > > > to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in > > > the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L > > > (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may > > > also send the HELP command for other information (like > > subscribing). > > -- > > Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com > > -- > > Author: Deshpande, Kirti > > INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Fat City Network Services -- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 > > San Diego, California -- Public Internet access / Mailing > > Lists > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message > > to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in > > the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L > > (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may > > also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Sign up for SBC Yahoo! Dial - First Month Free > http://sbc.yahoo.com > -- > Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com > -- > Author: Rachel Carmichael > INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Fat City Network Services -- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 > San Diego, California -- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message > to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in > the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L > (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may > also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Yechiel Adar INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services -- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California -- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists -------------------------------------------------------------------- To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
