Avoid deletes, updates, inserts - replace with create table/index nologging, 
insert+append where you can. 

Then the recovery/rollback problem dissappears.

>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 07/23/02 09:28p.m. >>>
No, Instance recovery has to take place internally, SMON has to recover the
committed transactions which were left hanging in the cache to datafiles so
that the files become synchronized.

After that the db gets opened and roll backwards takes its own time. It
depends SMON does this job in the background and any other Server process if
needs that block can rollback the uncommitted transaction and proceed with
the block.

If you wish to recover the instance recovery very fast then set the
LOG_CHECKPOINT_INTERVAL,LOG_CHECKPOINT_TIMEOUT,FAST_START_IO_TARGET
parameters to force the checkpoints quite often, this would open the
instance under crash quite fast as it has to perform less work. But more the
checkpoints initiated more the performance degradations as B'ground
processes would be under tremendous work.

Hope it clarifies.
Vikas Khanna  

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Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2002 1:48 PM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L


List, 
...was doing a looonnnng update, was taking forever, i rebooted the PC,
as expected,  the *open* of the instance is taking a very long time.. and i
cannot wait...
is there a way to open the DB *without* letting oracle perform the thread
recovery ??
i just to open the DB.... data lose is acceptable..

TIA
-rahul




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