Yeah, I thought about making the statement a little more vague to leave
myself plenty of wiggle room.  But, what the heck, go ahead and make it, and
see what happens.

Granted, there might be extreme circumstances in which RAC might be the only
way to bring sufficient numbers of CPUs to bear.  But, in general, while I'm
sure Oracle would much rather you pay $60K per CPU than $40K, and in order
to get people to do that, they would like everyone to believe that RAC is
that amazing application with a million-and-one uses, I can't think of any
situation where two boxes with, for example, 8 CPUs each would match the
performance of one box with 16 CPUs. assuming all other things are equal,
and we don't have some pathological situation like the old Sparc 2000 that
could not support the number of CPUs it could hold.  To put it more
generally, I don't think scaling out is as good as scaling up when it comes
to best database performance.

If the economics of the situation were such that a Redundant Array of
Inexpensive Computers (RAIC??) were the goal -- i.e. multiple cheap
computers as opposed to one very pricey computer -- and if your application
writers had the intellectual kahones and considerable programming experience
to write the application to efficiently use such an arrangement, then RAC
would make sense.  In the context of the original post, I got the impression
that the company has fairly deep pockets, so there is no intent to use RAIC
as a bargain basement equivalent of a big box (as far as I could tell).
There was no indication that the application(s) will be tailored to RAC, so
I don't think scaling out will be as effective as scaling up.

If fault tolerance is a requirement for the installation, or finances
require some kind of RAIC installation, or you have maxxed out your E15K,
then RAC might be appropriate.  But I don't think its use as just an
alternative means of bringing in more CPUs is correct.

And one of the other guys here just said Oracle now has the top TMP(c or d)
benchmark using HP Itanium systems.  I haven't checked it out yet, so that's
just hearsay.  I guess that means Microsoft will now be required to put
together a bigger cluster to beat it.


> -----Original Message-----
> 
> While fault tolerance is certainly one of the features of RAC,
> it isn't correct to say that it is not also for scalability.
> 
> Buy a bigger box?  That works fine until you're in the biggest
> box you can get, then what?  I realize that it's a small market
> segment that requires that kind of hardware, but it still exists.
> 
> Sun has been testing a cluster of 15k servers with RAC, ostensibly
> for scalability.  Some nodes are populated with 78 CPU's and 288
> Gig of RAM.  ( yes, that is correct ).
> 
> Jared
> 
> 
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