Check that the "less than 1%" of sorts aren't huge ones and not done by user
whose temporary_tablespace is pointed to permanent one.. system for example.

(Just a note that you can get temporary segments to non-temporary
tablespaces due failed index (re)creations, and create table as select)

Tanel.
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> Tim and Tanel:
>
> thanks for your help. The temp tablespace is LMTS
> and is TEMPORARY  and less than 1% of all sorts has
> been done on disk. I will make sure to check the
> v$locks when this issue appears again. I have changed
> the pcticrease for all the tablespaces to 0% so may be
> this will take care of the issue.
>
> Gene
>
> --- Tim Gorman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Tanel hit the nail on the head.  In the past,
> > ORA-01575 was usually
> > associated with temporary tablespaces that were DMT
> > and not tablespace type
> > "TEMPORARY" (which started in Oracle7.3).  First and
> > foremost, please make
> > sure you are using a TEMPORARY tablespace which is
> > locally-managed and uses
> > TEMPFILEs...
> >
> > It might be interesting to monitor V$LOCK for TYPE =
> > 'ST' to see what
> > sessions are holding this enqueue.  If the activity
> > is too transient,
> > perhaps querying V$SESSION_EVENT where EVENT =
> > 'enqueue' might indirectly
> > imply which sessions have waited on an enqueue (not
> > necessarily "ST",
> > thought!) sometime in the past...
> >
> >
> >
> > on 8/13/03 7:04 AM, Tanel Poder at
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >
> > > Hi!
> > >
> > > You can always schedule alter tablespace
> > coalesce's during low usage time.
> > > But you should check whether you have adjacent
> > free extents in your
> > > tablespaces at all? If you're not doing lot's of
> > dropping or truncating
> > > objects, then you shouldn't have. Thus no need for
> > coalesce either. Just
> > > check that all of your sort segments go to the
> > temp tablespace (which should
> > > be in temporary mode, preferrably LMT as well).
> > >
> > > Tanel.
> > >
> > >
> > >> thanks for the info. We do have a number of DMTS
> > in
> > >> the database. Three of them have pct_increase of
> > 50%,
> > >> the rest - 0. Should I consider changing the
> > >> pct_increase to 0 in all tablespaces in order to
> > get
> > >> rid of this ora 1575? Wouldn't I want to have an
> > >> automatic coalesce process for the DMTS though?
> > >>
> > >> thank you
> > >>
> > >> Gene
> > >> --- Tim Gorman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >>> Haven't seen this error since Oracle7...
> > >>>
> > >>> If the message is hitting the "alert.log", then
> > >>> chances are good it is
> > >>> coming from SMON.  SMON is attempting to acquire
> > the
> > >>> "ST" (a.k.a. Space
> > >>> transaction) enqueue in preparation for
> > coalescing
> > >>> free space in some
> > >>> tablespaces.  However, if it is unable to
> > acquire
> > >>> "ST" after a couple
> > >>> seconds, it times out and issues ORA-01575 to
> > the
> > >>> alert.log.
> > >>>
> > >>> So, based on experiences from 6-7 years ago:
> > >>>
> > >>>     * do you have a lot of "dictionary-managed"
> > >>> tablespaces?
> > >>>     * do these DMT's have default PCTINCREASE
> > >>> non-zero, thus attacting
> > >>>       SMON to do coalescing?
> > >>>
> > >>> If so, I'd suggest going to "locally-managed"
> > >>> tablespaces if at all
> > >>> possible...
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> on 8/12/03 12:44 PM, Gurelei at
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >>> wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>>> Hi all:
> > >>>>
> > >>>> I'm seeing the ora-01575 error in the alert
> > >>> logfile.
> > >>>> The article on the metalink refers to the
> > >>> parameter
> > >>>> which I think is obsolete in the ORacle version
> > we
> > >>> are
> > >>>> running (8.1.7). What does this error refer to?
> > >>> Any
> > >>>> thoughts? references?
> > >>>>
> > >>>> thanks
> > >>>>
> > >>>> gene
> > >>>>
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