Well, no I haven't seen him actually take a shower, but one must hope that the sound of running water for 42 minutes followed by silence for another 21 minutes must mean that water has run down Cary and not just down the drain.

And although I haven't seen him take the shower, we're many OakTable members who have seen him go into the bathroom and come out of bathroom - because we were all waiting for him to finish so the other 15 people could get their 42 seconds showers that they were entitled to.

Cary is, indeed, a clean guy.

Mogens

Rachel Carmichael wrote:

information without value - there are so many things I haven't seen
yet,
like lizards playing chess or Cary taking a quick shower).




oh the questions and thoughts this brings to mind!


as in:

has Mogens SEEN Cary taking a shower? or does he infer that Cary takes
long showers by the amount of time Cary is absent from a room and the
degree of wetness of Cary's hair when he returns? How quick is a quick
shower?

and, Cary is so definitely the epitome of the cute American "boy next
door" -- too bad that I've met his wife and like her, the thoughts of
him taking a shower could be interesting!



--- Mogens_Nørgaard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


I'm very sorry. By some error I never got this message sent. So here
it is, over a month too late. Fantastic...


Mogens

==============================================================

Ah, good to be back online with Tim Gorman on the old and wonderful
1575.

1575 was introduced in 7.1. Not as an error, because the code that
creates this error has been around for many years before that. 1575
was
introduced to signal an unpleasant wait situation for the ST
lock/enqueue - a warning to the DBA.

Used extents (in UET$) and free extents (in FET$) are managed
"together", meaning that 1) if you want to delete a record in UET$
and
insert it in FET$ (that means an extent has been dropped/freed), 2)
delete a record in FET$ and insert it in UET$ (extent has been
allocated) or 3) delete a bunch of records in FET$ and inserting only
one with the summary information in the same FET$ (coalescing
extents) -
you have to make sure that nobody else is messing with UET$/FET$ at
the
same time.

So Oracle takes out the massive ST enqueue on both UET$ and FET$
while
it performs 1, 2 or 3 mentioned above (and probably some other things
I
don't recall). If somebody else tries to get the ST enqueue while
it's
still being held by another session, you'll get the 1575 signalled in
the alert log - in order to simply notify you that there has been
queueing on the ST lock.

As long as you have DMTs you risk getting 1575. It might be possible
to
get it with LMTs, too, but I haven't seen it personally (which is
information without value - there are so many things I haven't seen
yet,
like lizards playing chess or Cary taking a quick shower).

Temporary tablespaces (in 7.3?) replaced the ST enqueue with a latch
per
temp tablespace (this helped a lot in OPS environments).

Management manouvres of various kind, like having standard sizes of
extents, not coalescing ever (hence the 7.1 change whereby a
tablespace
with pctincrease=0 didn't get coalesced), etc. also helped.

But it was LMTs that finally solved it. I thought. Until this thread.

So now I'm curious as to what is happening here.

Mogens




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