RE: Opinions sought on possible TOAD replacement

[Johnston, Tim]

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FYI...  Golden is a query tool (and a damn good one)...  In my opinion, it's what SQL Worksheet should be...  Simple to use and fast...  The PL/SQL editor from Benthic is separate tool called PLEdit...  It's ok but not great...  Like Golden it is quick and simple...  But, if you are looking for advanced functionality then I would definitely go with another solution...  I took a peek at PL/SQL Developer a few months ago and thought it was a nice tool...  Especially for the price...  That being said, I use PLEdit for my own use...  I buy my own tools and don't do enough to justify the cost...

 

Tim

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Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2003 3:29 PM
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Subject: RE: Opinions sought on possible TOAD replacement

We do something similar here.

Developers gets Golden (from Benthic). Which has a nice little PL/SQL Editor and SQL spreadsheet.

DBAs get TOAD.

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From: Rich Gesler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 2003-10-15 1:24 PM
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You are correct in that it is very developer centric.  As far, as hidden charms...I'd have to say the Reports capabilities.  You can easily incorporate your DBA scripts into this little tool.  Still not as good as TOAD (or even TORA) for a DBA but a nice, cheap addition to the arsenal.

Download it and give it a try,

Rich

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Paul Vincent
Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2003 11:59 AM
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Subject: Opinions sought on possible TOAD replacement

Management have been grumbling about the cost of TOAD Professional licenses, and have been "recommended" a cheaper product called PL/SQL Developer by Allround Automations (available from Inthink Corporation at $150 a pop). Now, I've been to the product website, and read up on all its features, and it basically looks like a nice enough product, but aimed squarely at PL/SQL developers, rather than including all the DBA-oriented goodies we find in TOAD. My first reaction is to respond by saying "fine, give it to the developers to replace their copies of TOAD, if they find it adequate for development, but it's not a DBA tool, so I'll keep my TOAD Xpert with DBA module, thanks very much!".

 

But if anyone on the list has tried both products, I'd be interested to know what you think. Is it as usable as TOAD Professional for developers? Does it have hidden charms which would make it a suitable replacement for DBA use? How responsive are the product developers to requests for enhancements? Any input is very welcome!

 

Paul Vincent

DBA

University of Central England