Martin , I am including the introduction part to the original e-mail answering you as reference
"From: Jose A. Izquierdo Date: 06/23/04 15:59:12 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Jose Answers... Martin: Before something is made about my silence: 1- In the last 30 days I have had to deal with the death of an uncle who was the closest thing I had to a father outside my own. In a time where my dad could barely afford Public university for me ( 1970-1976) he forked over the princely sum of $4000 a semester so I could get my Bachelor Degree at Loyola University of Chicago and I could start my graduate Studies at Kent Sate University. So not only had I had to deal with the grief, I found that he had designate me executor of his Estate...so I have been working overtime so my aunt gets the pensions that from now on will be her source of income and so the division of the estate is done without the bickering that usually happens among sons when an estate is split. 2- Add to that I am the primary care taker to my mother and for another uncle who has been diagnosed with Adenocarcinomas of the lungs , adrenal glands and kidneys ..in all cases with undifferentiated cells..So I am coordinating both radio and chemo therapy for him and making sure his financial needs are covered as he has no other medical coverage than Medicare. 3- Last weekend I spent 3 glorious days in ICU due to elevated high blood pressure and Prinzemetal Angina (sp).. So OGD and AOS were the last of my worries.... add to that I did not receive The OGD Issue in question.... So lets refresh the collective memory of the lists participants as to what Howard Ginsberg wrote and that I am being accused of remaining silent... At 5:29 PM -0400 6/16/04, Howard Ginsberg wrote: >Jose > > >You said, "BTW I questioned Dr Griesbach and the 6 trustee candidates Mr >Bronstein is Backing. So far I only got answers from Dr Griesbach." > > >I called two of the trustee candidates. They both have not heard of you nor >have spoken with nor received e-mail from you. > > > >When did you do this, Jose? Just the facts." See Martin ( and Howard) had I been paying attention to the OGD and had I received the issue in question I would have had answered the following.... Howard where in my post Did I mentioned that the trustees know me personally? Nowhere Did I mentioned I called them? NO Did I mentioned I Emailed them ? NO And yes I contacted using a medium available to me as an AOS Member : THE AOS FORUM . Similar questioning of Dr Griesbach and Mr Bronstein AFTER I posted my questions to the Trustees were answered by both Mr Bronstein and Dr Griesbach. FACT: This is the URL of my post questioning Bronstein in the AOS Forum... http://www.orchidweb.org/cgi-bin/board/robboard.cgi?action=display&num=984 Martin in my original message I sent you a transcript of it as it appeared in the AOS Forum. I AM WILLING TO TRANSMIT the same to an one that I sent you. Mr Bronstein not only answered in the AOS Forum, He answered in OGD using the same identical message. FACT: this is the URL of my Post questioning Dr Griesbach http://www.orchidweb.org/cgi-bin/board/robboard.cgi?action=display&num=984 Martin in my original message I sent you a transcript of it as it appeared in the AOS Forum. I AM WILLING TO TRANSMIT the same to an one that I sent you. Mr Bronstein not only answered in the AOS Forum, FACT: this is the URL of my Post questioning Ms Cohen and the remaining 5 trustees. http://www.orchidweb.org/cgi-bin/board/robboard.cgi?action=display&num=821 Please notice the thread number 821 which indicates a previous thread to the one with the questions for Dr Griesbach and Mr Bronstein .... As a matter of FACT here is a copy I have some questions for: Ms Rita Cohen ... 7 Forum Main Page 7 Further Reading 7 Reply to this Message 7 Posted by Jose A. Izquierdo Rivera on 06/09/04 - 19:26:20 Browser: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.1; .NET CLR 1.1 4322) Message Body .., Ms Aileen Garrison, Mr. William Guthrie, Ms Karen Muir, Mr. Ben Singer and, Ms Sandra Svoboda. I have noticed with interest that in the documents posted in the Bedford Orchids website, where Mr. Ginsberg supports the candidacy of Howard Bronstein for AOS president, while criticizing the actions of the Nominating Committee, there is a proposed: DOCUMENT 2 - PROXY FORM We the undersigned hereby give our proxy to the bearer of this document to vote for Howard Bronstein for President of the American Orchid Society and to vote against the entire slate of officers but not the Trustees proposed by the Nominating Committee at the Annual Meeting in October 2004 A cursory reading of this seems to lead to the conclusion that Mr. Ginsberg is supporting your election as Trustees of the AOS during the next Members Meeting. Since the Nominating Committee that originally selected you, is being severely attacked by Mr. Ginsberg and those who support his stand, accusations that include charges of conflict of interest, anti-Semitism and homophobia, I must ask of all of you the following questions: 1- Do you support the Slate of Officers that the nominating committee, designated concurrently with you? To Wit: Art Moore, President; Jim Rassmann, Executive Vice-President; Carlos Fighetti, Vice-President; Taylor Slaughter, Vice-President; Marion Allen, Secretary; William Rhodehamel, Treasurer; 2- Do you support the charges levied that some of the members of the Committee that selected you six, acted in a way that constituted conflict of interest? 3- Do you support the charges levied against the Nominating Committee that selected you six that in their decision not to promote Mr. Howard Bronstein, the committee acted in such a way that made manifests their anti-Semitism, and homophobia? 4- Are you backing the election of Mr. Bronstein or Mr. Moore? IMHO, the use of your name in alternate slate, seems to back up to give support to Mr. Ginsberg attacks on the same people that trusted you . So I would like to know, on this issue, where do you stand? Follow the thread and you notice none of the trustees answered. Why they did not answered ? I don't know. All I know is that I used a message board for the AOS Members which was successful in getting me answers from DR Griesbach and Mr Bronstein. So there is nothing nefarious about my silence, and the Facts prove I did contact them in ways other AOS members questioned on the same issues read and responded. Now a question for you two: When are you going to stop attacking the messenger and address the message? ...your lack of diligence , you lack of balance, the innuendo spouted by Mr Ginsberg and others, the not so factual statements they have stated have done what I considered imposible: I, on this issue, am Agreeing with Andy Easton. If that doesn't give you pause nothing will... Jose _______________________________________________ the OrchidGuide Digest (OGD) [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.orchidguide.com/mailman/listinfo/orchids
