Have there been dance groups sued because someone caught Covid at a dance? Is that what a waiver prevents? How did they prove they caught it at the dance?
Lissa Bengtson San Antonio On Wed, Oct 5, 2022 at 10:49 AM Liz Sturgen via Organizers < [email protected]> wrote: > The ten sets of dance organizers running regular series at the Guiding > Star Grange in Greenfield, MA have agreed to a Covid policy for all of our > dances. You can see it here: > http://www..org/covid-19-policy > <http://www.friendsofgreenfielddance.org/covid-19-policy> > > It includes mandatory masks, proof of vaccination, signing a waiver, and > contact information. Testing is not required but highly recommended. > > Liz Sturgen > > On Tue, Oct 4, 2022, 11:39 PM Joe Harrington via Organizers < > [email protected]> wrote: > >> Actually, I read Donald Perley's comment apolitically, not as a statement >> that policies should recognize COVID's severe threat to humanity and thus >> be severe themselves (that's politics), but rather that the severity of >> COVID in your community at any given moment varies, and so should your >> policy, for example, to relieve the stress on hospitals. >> >> For example, Contra Knights in Orlando is a new group that just started >> holding public dances this summer. It is illegal here to require >> vaccination ($5000 fine per person denied, per occurrence, even if you're >> an unincorporated association or a nonprofit), and there is significant >> local resistance to mask requirements. So our policy is to recommend masks, >> to supply KN95s free, to require masks if the case numbers spike, and to >> cancel dances if the hospitals are stressed, on the presumption that we >> WILL spread COVID if it's around and adding to hospital stress would be >> particularly bad. >> >> We don't advertise that on our website, we just do it. When BA.4/5 >> started spiking this summer, we required masks and said that we very >> strongly urged and expected vaccines, and asked unvaccinated people not to >> come. But, we didn't check cards or refuse anyone admission, so we were >> compliant with the law. Attendance was 30% lower at that dance than the >> prior one, and I heard it from unvaccinated people, but hospitals were >> starting to get stressed. A month later, we were back to merely >> recommending masks, as the numbers had gone down and hospitals were no >> longer stressed. >> >> --jh-- >> Joe Harrington >> Organizer, Greater Orlando Contra Dance >> Faculty Advisor, Contra Knights, the UCF contra dancing club >> contraknights.org >> FB, Ig: Contra Knights >> [email protected] >> >> >> On Tue, Oct 4, 2022 at 4:25 PM Jeff Kaufman via Organizers < >> [email protected]> wrote: >> >>> I agree that how important it is to avoid getting or spreading covid >>> should be a major driver of dance policies. But I don't think this list is >>> a good place for discussion evaluating that importance: there's no "dance >>> organizer" perspective on that, so there's not much reason to have the >>> discussion here. >>> >>> Jeff >>> >>> On Tue, Oct 4, 2022 at 4:05 PM Ron Blechner <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> Seconding Donald's comments. >>>> >>>> If this were about say, dealing with harassers, or an alcohol policy, >>>> or any other safety issue, my assumption is that we wouldn't be looking to >>>> avoid discussion if there was a major difference on the perception of harm >>>> or danger. >>>> >>>> This is one of the few places online where people mostly still are >>>> being fairly civil; those "other places" I've almost entirely left or muted >>>> because the debate has been so hostile. In contrast, what I read here are >>>> people of some fairly differing opinions and no one is shouting or making >>>> personal attacks. >>>> >>>> On Tue, Oct 4, 2022, 3:18 PM Donald Perley via Organizers < >>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> How serious COVID is should be the driving force behind any COVID >>>>> policy. >>>>> >>>>> On Tue, Oct 4, 2022, 2:03 PM Jeff Kaufman <[email protected]> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Discussion of covid policies and implementation are a good fit for >>>>>> this list. >>>>>> >>>>>> Discussion of how organizations have navigated conflicting needs and >>>>>> preferences around covid in their communities is also good fit for this >>>>>> list. >>>>>> >>>>>> General "how seriously should you take covid at this point" >>>>>> discussion is not a good fit: there are lots of other places to have that >>>>>> debate. >>>>>> >>>>>> Jeff >>>>>> >>>>>> On Tue, Oct 4, 2022 at 1:39 PM Donald Perley via Organizers < >>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Re COVID in general in the US, we are still seeing around 500 deaths >>>>>>> per day. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 3, 2022 at 4:29 PM John Sweeney via Organizers >>>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > Hi all, >>>>>>> > Is COVID still that much of a problem in the USA? >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > Our current policy is: >>>>>>> > "Vaccinations and LFTs are appreciated, but not required. Please >>>>>>> stay at home if you have symptoms of COVID-19 or you feel unwell in any >>>>>>> other way." >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > We still provide sanitisers and remind people to use >>>>>>> them. We have never required masks as they can be counter-productive >>>>>>> when >>>>>>> exercising. We have been dancing again since July 20th 2021, when >>>>>>> lockdown >>>>>>> ended. >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > I don't know of any UK dance organisations that take any >>>>>>> more precautions than us. >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > Happy dancing, >>>>>>> > John >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > John Sweeney, Dancer, England [email protected] 01233 625 362 >>>>>>> & 07802 940 574 >>>>>>> > http://contrafusion.co.uk/KentCeilidhs.html for Live Music >>>>>>> Ceilidhs >>>>>>> > http://www.contrafusion.co.uk for Dancing in Kent >>>>>>> > http://www.modernjive.com for Modern Jive DVDs >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> > Organizers mailing list -- [email protected] >>>>>>> > To unsubscribe send an email to >>>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> Organizers mailing list -- [email protected] >>>>>>> To unsubscribe send an email to >>>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Organizers mailing list -- [email protected] >>>>> To unsubscribe send an email to >>>>> [email protected] >>>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>> Organizers mailing list -- [email protected] >>> To unsubscribe send an email to [email protected] >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> Organizers mailing list -- [email protected] >> To unsubscribe send an email to [email protected] >> > _______________________________________________ > Organizers mailing list -- [email protected] > To unsubscribe send an email to [email protected] >
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