TBH, I'm ROTFL. FWIW, IMO I think BTBA's SNAFU needs addressing IRL - how
did COVID and NY pass your filter? SMH. LOL. IDK, but YOLO and I think it's
NBD when a post gives you all the information spelled out and the
insignificant bit is an acronym. But NWM, IAG! CYA on the flip side, TTYL.
JK. ;-)

-DV

On Wed, Oct 5, 2022 at 2:15 PM Paul Rosenberg <[email protected]> wrote:

> Hi folks
>
> Two of my pet peeves are on this thread:
>
> 1.  I do not know who the email writer "Being Better" is , and also where
> that person lives.  For the purposes of most of these dialogues, this is
> useful information
>
> 2. I am setting up a new organization:  *BTBA* *(Ban Those
> Blasted Acronyms)*
> This in response to (lower on the page) the newest one I have discovered
> through Google means "If I recall Correctly":   *IIRC*
>
> 3. I also had to google "virtue signaling", which I guessed correctly.
> Although I continue to waiver about wearing a mask (I am wearing it indoors
> now because the Albany, NY area is now experiencing a spike in COVID).  But
> after I got the latest Omicron booster and while rates were lower, I was
> only masking when in tight indoor spaces.
>
> I am calling a dance at a wedding Saturday, and at this point, I do not
> expect to be wearing a mask. But I am already feeling kind of guilty about
> it.
>  And yes, sometimes during low rates and outdoors, I look at masked people
> as maybe an example of virtue signaling, but when I think more about it, I
> realize there could be many many reasons that are none of my business:
> maybe they are immune compromised, or maybe they really care about
> protecting others from getting COVID, or maybe it is a way to encourage
> others to mask and therefore have a better chance of avoiding being
> infected.
>
>
> Paul Rosenberg
> Albany, NY
> www.homespun.biz
> *Joy Through Traditional Dance & Live Fiddle Music*
> 518-482-9255
>
>
> On Wed, Oct 5, 2022 at 1:21 PM Being Better via Organizers <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
>> In my group our old group had been shut down since 2020 partially because
>> the leadership couldn't agree about covid mitigation policies. In spring of
>> 2022 myself and one of the other people in the group decided to reopen it
>> without any covid policy, just allowing people to do what they felt was
>> best as far as masks, vaccines, tests etc. This approach won't please
>> everyone because some people won't go unless everyone's vaccinated but we
>> have had a pretty good turnout every dance that we've had. We've danced
>> once a month March through June, then took a break and came back in
>> September and will be dancing through December. I've made an effort to
>> avoid spelling out a covid policy in our Facebook group, because I've been
>> afraid that bring it up will get people fighting arguing and debating
>> endlessly about the severity of covid and what should be done about it. I
>> never saw anyone else take this approach, I don't know if it's a good
>> approach, but this is what I do. I've even gone so far as to delete
>> comments where people ask about our covid policy just to keep it off of
>> people's minds. But I do always answer those people through Messenger
>> privately.
>>
>> I'm not aware of anyone who's got covid from my dances, but I don't do
>> contact tracing so I don't know. I used to always bring masks l, not K95
>> masks, but since no one ever took one anyone wearing a mask always brought
>> their own I threw them out and stopped bringing them.
>>
>> The way I see it is if you think the covid is a serious enough risk to
>> need multiple vaccines and a heavy duty mask then maybe you shouldn't be
>> dancing at all. But if your viewpoint is that covid is just something we're
>> going to have to live with and that the disease has a 98% survival rate,
>> then I don't see what the big deal is just use common sense and and don't
>> allow sick people to come who are obviously sick. I've never had anyone
>> obviously sick, but if someone did come I would just tell them they I
>> couldn't come in.
>>
>> At this point let's admit so much of the mask wearing is just virtue
>> signaling. I've had people tell me they've been exposed to covid and they
>> come wearing a mask by the end of the night they're not wearing it anymore.
>> I've had people come and not wear a mask at my dance, but then they
>> organize a dance in their town and they enforce 95 masks for everybody,
>> including themselves.
>>
>> The way I see it is people's vaccine status is none of my business the
>> issue is so much more complicated than "have you had a vaccine". No one's
>> talking about legitimate valid reasons for people to not get vaccinated.
>> And I personally don't trust rapid covid tests, because I've been pretty
>> darn sure I've had covid but I've never ever tested positive for covid
>> since I started testing.
>>
>> My policies, or non policy, seems to please a lot of people and has been
>> successful so far.
>>
>> On Wed, Oct 5, 2022, 1:12 PM Don Veino via Organizers <
>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> IIRC, in one of the COVID rescue bills passed, there was a specific
>>> exemption for organizations protecting them from suits for people being
>>> infected as part of operation.
>>>
>>> That said, in the US, pretty much anybody can pursue a suit against
>>> anyone for anything at any time - the waivers help to discourage such and
>>> may help later as evidence of informed consent toward *defending against*
>>> the case.
>>>
>>> -Don
>>>
>>> On Wed, Oct 5, 2022, 11:55 AM Lissa Bengtson via Organizers <
>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Have there been dance groups sued because someone caught Covid at a
>>>> dance?  Is that what a waiver prevents?  How did they prove they caught it
>>>> at the dance?
>>>>
>>>> Lissa Bengtson
>>>> San Antonio
>>>>
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