Before my day gets too busy to respond, I want to reply to a point made by 
Malachi about the need for specific acts and items to be named in a Code of 
Conduct.  If I am interpreting what he is trying to say correctly, people need 
the specific words and actions named so they know what is and is not allowed.  
Acceptable behaviors vary widely from culture to culture so they may need 
specific actions listed to know what is expected.

The original thread was getting too long so I have copied this from Malachi’s 
long statement in a string of other long statements.  I hope it is enough to 
illustrate what I am replying to. 
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The OUSA CoC (just used for convenience) says that harassment includes but is 
not limited to:
* offensive communication related to gender, sexual orientation, disability, 
physical appearance, body size, race, religion, and age.
* use of sexist, racist, ableist, or any other discriminatory or exclusionary 
language. 

From my point of view, this is like saying that "murder, stealing, and assault" 
are against the law.  It doesn't go into details about what different specific 
words are offensive, but outlines broad areas of language that are not 
tolerated.

However, I want to draw attention to one part of your statement that seems 
troublesome to me.  I don't think it is a "problem" that the list will include 
"a lot of things that only a very small subset of people will care about."  
Part of the point of a CoC is to make it clear that people in what are often 
marginalized groups feel comfortable attending because they know what will and 
won't be tolerated
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The library I worked in had to translate many of their policies into Spanish, 
Hmong, Karen, and Somali since, while the metropolitan area as a whole was 
still primarily Caucasian, the core cities are not.  The cultures named have 
widely different standards of acceptable behaviors.

All our city attorneys would not approve a code of behavior for the library 
that named specific words and acts because you could not name them all.  If a 
list is specific and something is left off, it can be legally argued that it is 
allowed because it wasn’t named.  I took statements where that argument was 
made.  It is also perfectly possible to harass someone without using any 
prohibited words or actions.

Malachi’s desire to protect people by being specific is very admirable.  He 
wants to protect everyone.  I wish it could work that way and everything would 
be clearly understandable.   No CoC in existence will satisfy everyone.

If I have misinterpreted what Malachi was saying, or he feels unfairly singled 
out,  I apologize and he may publicly correct me.  Furthermore, I am not a 
lawyer nor am I familiar with the laws in Ohio.

Carol Martinson 

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