Thank You Juan, Ray and Randy
I guess the initial question was a little vague but I like to hear people's
opinions. After the download and simple install I was able to add a Sybase
ASA database as a DataSource, connect to it via JSP and add a simple custom
taglib to the default-web-app which proves to me that this thing at least
works. My next tests include setting up my own web-app and playing around
with EJB and JMS if I get the time. Overall it seems to be a good product.
I like how it picked up on the change I made to make the news.ear demo code
function automatically.
As I assume you know Allaire/JRun was purchased by Macromedia. Perhaps the
marriage with Dreamweaver/UltraDev will payoff. I've never looked hard at
JRun since most of my customers typically will pay the big bucks for a
"brand-name" product like WebSphere, WebLogic or SilverStream but some want
to keep the cost of licenses very low at times.
I'm not sure about Resin at this time. It seems to ship with source code
which is cool but it seems to be C code, not Java.
I also teach Java and J2EE classes and we've been looking for an engine for
student machines that is fairly easy to install and configure. Tomcat works
for JSP but lacks the EJB, JNDI and JMS support needed.
SilverStream 3.7 has been certified for J2EE and it seems to be very solid.
I spent several days with about 20 other people putting it through some
exercises.
Weblogic is great but has to be restarted a lot to make some code changes
(5.1).
WebSphere doesn't seem to fully understand the proper directory structure of
a web-app and the use of WARs completely and it is VERY slow on my NT box to
startup and build/deploy simple JSPs.
Any need to restart Orion after a change to:
JSP
EJB
JMS queue or topic
Bean for a JSP
Taglib classes, .tld, .xml
.war, .ear, .jar?
Thanks,
Burr
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----- Original Message -----
From: Kemp Randy-W18971 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Orion-Interest <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2001 3:00 PM
Subject: RE: Developers
> I am not sure about major sites running Orion, but here is some food for
thought:
> When you mean better, what is the criteria? Able to handle a greater
amount of traffic? Better documentation? Fewer bugs found? Site not
bouncing that often? You can go to www.netcraft.com, and see what a site is
running and how often the server has been bounced.
> 1. According to the comparisons at www.orionserver.com, Orion and Resin
are neck and neck, as far as speed goes.
> 2. The documentation for Jrun is excellent, but it doesn't fair as well
as Resin or Orion, according to Orion's own benchmarks. Resin and Orion
could use some lessons from Jrun on how to produce good documentation.
> 3. I have played with Resin a bit, and I like it. One nice thing I like
is the documentation contains instructions in setting up Resin with various
EJB servers, such as WebLogic, Orion, Jboss, and Jonas.
> You would be hard pressed to say Orion, Resin, or Jrun are bad products --
they are actually quite good. I am sure there are sites running all three,
and the prices are not bad:
> 1. $500 for basic Resin, $1500 for Orion, and about $5000 for Jrun.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Burr Sutter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2001 10:57 AM
> To: Orion-Interest
> Subject: Developers
>
>
> Just downloaded the Orion Server and was wondering what the current
userbase
> thought about the product.
> Is it stable and scalable enough to deploy a major website using Servlets,
> JSP and EJB?
>
> Better than Resin? JRun?
>
> I've used WebSphere, WebLogic and SilverStream.
>
> Thanks,
> Burr
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