I don't think that getting a NullPointerException when trying to use a
feature is complaint. I feel that the support of such a product is almost
as important as the product it's self. Any commercial company that cannot
support it's users, will fail. If there is not enouph people to support the
product, then hire more. If there is not enouph money to hire more people,
then increate the license fee for commercial deployment from $1500 to $3000.
It does not make sence to keep the fee so low, and at the same time provide
little or no support for the users.
I have been trying to resolve the issue with "domain was null"
NullPointerException in Orion for the last 4 weeks, with no repsonse. How am
I supposed to continue using this product?
-AP_
-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Hani Suleiman
Sent: Monday, April 02, 2001 6:28 AM
To: Orion-Interest
Subject: RE: JBoss verses Orion
Magnus and Karl both chip in now and then, they used to do that more in
the past I guess, but (understandably) realised that it's a far better use
of their time to ensure they have a stellar product, than to respond to
endless complaints. As Joseph said, it depends on what you want out of
your software. Killer performance, compliance to specs, excellent
development environment, easy deployment, or fuzzy feelgood social
aspects. The fuzzy stuff is nice, but given a choice....
Hani
On Mon, 2 Apr 2001, Kemp Randy-W18971 wrote:
> But wouldn't you be just a bit curious to know more about Karl, or more
importantly, who the founding members of Ironflare are? I would. If you go
to visit the Resin site (www.caucho.com), which is a commercial site,
somewhere there is a blurb about Scott, the key architect. And I have
noticed that Scott is actively answering questions in the Resin mailing
list, and Rickard and Marc are actively answering questions in the Jboss
mailing list, both on a regular basic.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, April 02, 2001 5:40 AM
> To: Orion-Interest
> Subject: Re: JBoss verses Orion
>
>
> Yes, the amount of charitable contributions made by the Orion team is of
the
> highest importance to me, too. And whether they supported Bush or Gore in
> Florida. And whether their favorite color is blue - if it's not, then I
HATE
> ORION! (And if it is, then why does their web site use red so much?)
> Technical issues are over-rated in technical fields, if you ask me.
>
> (On the other hand, I can think of a few VERY good reasons JBoss'
> performance was lower than Orion's - no explanation was made of the
specific
> setup.)
>
> On Sat, Mar 31, 2001 at 09:37:31AM -0600, Kemp Randy-W18971 wrote:
> > Orion is definitely ahead of Jboss technically, but Jboss has more
people behind it, as far as development and debugging goes. With Jboss, you
can get a profile of the founders and board members. It would be nice to
have the same profile of some of the Orion founders and developers, so we
can know them a bit more personally. Jboss has the potential to catch up to
Orion, given the number of people involved on the project. So Orion needs
to keep in the technical groove, so to speak. Remember the story of the
Turtle and the rabbit race?
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Fink, Paul
> > To: Orion-Interest
> > Sent: 3/30/01 2:52 PM
> > Subject: JBoss verses Orion
> >
> >
> > I ported our Orion application to JBoss. I love JBoss for
> > usability, documentation and support. Unfortunately our application is
> > very
> > performance dependent the JBoss version ran very slow. After playing
> > with
> > cache setting, etc. It seemed like the communications was the main
> > bottle
> > neck.
> > To test this I wrote a simple session bean with one get method that
> > returns
> > a Long.
> >
> > The client looped 10,000 times calling the getter. The Orion version was
> > 6
> > times faster!
> > Other tests we ran had Orion running 4x faster.
> >
> > It seems that JBoss certainly is performance limited.
> >
> > I'm running on a 900 MHz PIII under Linux with Sun's JDK 1.3
> >
> >
> > Paul Fink
>
>
